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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Well Duh!
    #3139435 - 09/15/04 06:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

NOBODY LIKES HIM

By DICK MORRIS

September 15, 2004 -- JOHN Kerry is in deeper trouble than the polls indicate. While the Fox News survey taken last week after the Republican convention shows Bush with a small lead over Kerry, the internal data indicates big shifts against the Democrat.

For example, Kerry is now seen unfavorably by a record 44 percent of the voters (his personal worst), giving him a slightly higher unfavorable ratio than Bush ? whom 43 percent dislike. (Bush's edge comes from the fact that he gets 51 percent to rate him favorably, while Kerry has only a 46 percent favorable rating.)

But worse, the poll shows that Kerry must face a basic problem: His own voters don't like him very much.

The Fox News poll asked Kerry supporters if their vote for the Democrat could best be described as motivated by support for Kerry (41 percent) or by opposition to Bush (51 percent). By contrast, Bush voters emphatically say, by 82-13, that they are voting for the president rather than against the challenger.

This puts Kerry in a tough position in the coming debates. He has no real base of support and any attenuation of the dislike his voters feel for Bush will weaken him substantially. All Bush has to do is to persuade a few Kerry voters to stop disliking him, and he can get their votes. There is no residual affection for the Democrat to get in the way of their switching to the president.

The polls already have shown how Kerry's own voters break almost evenly on the issues, with half supporting the war in Iraq and half opposing it, and almost equal numbers saying we must stay the course as say we should bring the troops home.

So Kerry can't use issues to hold his own in the debates: Whatever he says will antagonize some of his base. And now it's plain that he can't rely on personal popularity to hold them, since most are just voting against Bush.

If the president gives an even moderately effective presentation and comes across as even somewhat likeable, he can cut deeply into Kerry's vote.

In addition, the poll shows that there has been a shift in the issues on which voters are focused. Those who identify terrorism or homeland security as key issues has risen from 7 percent before the convention to 22 percent afterward, and issues such as taxes and gay marriage, which did not make the polls before, now draw 4 percent each who feel they are the most important issue before the nation.

Asked which is more important in their votes, national security or the nation's economy, voters split 45-38 for security ? a clear Bush win.

The electorate remains sharply divided in its loyalties based on voters' perception of the most important issue. Of those who see security as key, Bush wins by 68-28, while Kerry triumphs among those who focus most on the economy by 56-19.

Underscoring Kerry's popularity problems, voters rate Bush better on a host of adjectives. Who is the stronger leader? Bush, by 51-37. Who is more honest and trustworthy? Bush, 42-37. Who will make the United States a stronger country? Bush, 46-40. Who takes strong stands and sticks with them? Bush, 56-27.

Kerry only wins "Who understands the average American better?" ? and by only 43-36.

Kerry never had time to make America like him. He won the nomination before anyone really got to know him and has coasted on anti-Bush campaigning ever since. Even now, he relies on the old National Guard records of Bush to animate his campaign, as if we are about to form our judgment of how Bush would be as a commander based on 30-year- old, possibly forged records rather than on our own observation of how he has done the job. But Kerry has got to close the most fundamental gap of his candidacy: Voters don't like him very much.

They should have figured that out before the nomination.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3139489 - 09/15/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

LDS actually posting something other than belligerent one-line comments? Must be a blue moon...  :tongue2:


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Zahid]
    #3139591 - 09/15/04 06:42 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Address the issue of the thread or stay out of it, Zahid.

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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3139636 - 09/15/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I would love to be a fly on the wall of all the Kerry supporters when the polls close and Lurch..er Kerry concedes. I originally said something like Bush 49% to Kerry's 45% (or something like that) but if things keep going this way for Lurch i'm going to revise that victory (for better or for worse) to 51% to 43% Bush will win.

I'll finally be able to bring back a favorite picture from the past:


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Phred]
    #3139762 - 09/15/04 07:17 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Don't be a hypocrite.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3141065 - 09/15/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Well Duh.....

Hey, I agree, I think that the dems have failed once again to put forth a strong leader, but that's how the cookie crumbles (I mean the choices in the Primaries weren't much better, and THAT is the main reason I feel the dems have failed again, I mean come the fuck on, who could believe that Dean was the expected leader, let alone a contender)....


I have an even bigger problem with people that ACTUALLY like Bush. I just don't understand it, AT ALL. I understand those Bush supporters that don't like Kerry, and like Bush because, well, he's the republican in office, but people that actually think he's doing a good job? It just reaffirms my strong belief that MOST of the American public are COMPLETE morons.


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Invisibleluvdemshrooms
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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Skikid16]
    #3142491 - 09/16/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Keep in mind there are those who don't like Bush but see him as the better candidate compared to Kerry.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3142583 - 09/16/04 06:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

dick morris is a rat ....a fucking garbage dirtbag...i hope dies :smile:


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Phred]
    #3142587 - 09/16/04 06:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
Address the issue of the thread or stay out of it, Zahid.

pinky




dude shutup....you only become a mod when someone who's views differ from you "does something wrong". your one sided moderation is a joke.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3142613 - 09/16/04 08:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

wow, you whine worse than a woman.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3142628 - 09/16/04 08:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i have to say that i don't understand that the conservative accusations that the left whines and complains. from what i see, the right complains about government more than the left (seeing as they want as little as possible of it). if youre talking about the current situation, it doesn't take half a brain to figure out that the opposition party is going to often oppose the current administrations politics. Unless of course, you feel we should take Britney Spears' advice (below).


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Tao]
    #3142670 - 09/16/04 09:16 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

i have to say that i don't understand that the conservative accusations that the left whines and complains.




where did I say anything about the left or right? I was referring to Thekingofthething..that boy/girl whines quite a bit.



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"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson


Edited by Innvertigo (09/16/04 09:23 AM)


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Innvertigo]
    #3142777 - 09/16/04 10:27 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

your pic refers to the left.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3142832 - 09/16/04 10:58 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

KOtT writes:

Dude shutup....you only become a mod when someone who's views differ from you "does something wrong". your one sided moderation is a joke.

Same comment to you, KOtT, as I directed towards Zahid. Address the topic of the thread or stay out of it.

For your information, your accusation is incorrect. I have been responsible for getting those whose opinions support mine banned in the past, and I will be again. Regular readers of the forum can confirm this.

pinky


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Phred]
    #3142915 - 09/16/04 11:30 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
KOtT writes:

Dude shutup....you only become a mod when someone who's views differ from you "does something wrong". your one sided moderation is a joke.

Same comment to you, KOtT, as I directed towards Zahid. Address the topic of the thread or stay out of it.

For your information, your accusation is incorrect. I have been responsible for getting those whose opinions support mine banned in the past, and I will be again. Regular readers of the forum can confirm this.

pinky




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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3142935 - 09/16/04 11:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I hate to say this, but it's looking more and more like Bush will win re-election. Not that it really matter which corporate puppet is elected.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: silversoul7]
    #3143070 - 09/16/04 12:22 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Nigga please! It floors me that everyone keeps saying that Bush has it in the bag. That's crazy. Everyone said the same thing when Saddam was found.

At least wait until the debates before you declare Bush the winner.







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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3143192 - 09/16/04 12:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Keep in mind there are those who don't like Bush but see him as the better candidate compared to Kerry


I hear you, I understand it.

I was just saying that people that actually LIKE Bush, and feel he has done a GOOD job, aside from who is opponent is, they are the ones that I find are complete morons.


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: Skikid16]
    #3144318 - 09/16/04 05:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think there are very many who post here who actually like Bush, but there are a few I guess.

I like to say it this way.....
Bush is an asshole, Kerry is a puss dripping, maggot infested asshole.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers


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Re: Well Duh! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3145554 - 09/16/04 10:46 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Bush is an asshole, Kerry is a puss dripping, maggot infested asshole.


Fair enough, but the ass hair surrounding Bush is fucking wrought with dingle berries, we have yet to see what the ass hair aound Kerry is........


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