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InvisibleDiploidM
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Have you ever wondered if...
    #3139004 - 09/15/04 04:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If sentience is a product of our physical brain, is there a threshold mass at which sentience begins to happen? If so, and if that mass is less than half the average mass of a human brain, could two or more critical-mass regions of one brain develop an independent consciousness in one brain?


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Re: Have you ever wondered if... [Re: Diploid]
    #3139030 - 09/15/04 04:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Sure, it's called Schizophrenia.


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Re: Have you ever wondered if... [Re: Lightningfractal]
    #3139448 - 09/15/04 06:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

mass has nothing to do with brain function (wieght and size)
a big brain isnt a prerequisite for conciousness. Plus how could one brain has the mass of two brains? (is that what your saying?)

and the person above is mistaking schizophrenia for multiple personality disorder, and neither of those disorders have anything to do with brain mass.

actually thats not true, schizophrenia causes an enlargment of the ventricle thingies in the brain and therefore a decrease in the overall mass of the brain.


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Re: Have you ever wondered if... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3139451 - 09/15/04 06:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

oh wait you said if that mass is less than half the size of a human brain, sorry.

But if that were the case we would ALL have two conciousnesses in the brain. so obviously that isnt the case


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Re: Have you ever wondered if... [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3144343 - 09/16/04 05:34 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

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a big brain isnt a prerequisite for conciousness.




You don't know that since humans are the only ones who can more or less clearly demonstrate consciousness.

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oh wait you said if that mass is less than half the size of a human brain, sorry. But if that were the case we would ALL have two conciousnesses in the brain.




Not necessarily. If what I said is so, and I'm not saying that it is, I'm just thinking out loud (in writing), then maybe *some* brains exhibit more than one consciousness. Maybe that is incompatible with the functions required to remain alive and in the rare instances where it does happen, the body dies shortly after the two consciousnesses emerge.

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so obviously that isnt the case




Again, you don't know that. It may be that some stillborn babies die from multiple consciousness... who knows for sure.

That said, the brain is not homogeneous. It has definite structures and they are required to regulate the body, so it's not as simple as the left half is John and the right half is Jane, but still, these are interesting things to think about, eh?


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Re: Have you ever wondered if... [Re: Diploid]
    #3145529 - 09/16/04 10:41 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Whats interesting is that your name is Diploid- two sets of DNA. Me thinks you got two brains(or minds rather). Hehehee.

Damn poodles.


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