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North Spore Shop: Bulk Substrate

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OfflineGolddoor
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Why only a few shrooms then nothing?
    #3138488 - 09/15/04 08:45 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Every time I take my used PF cakes and recycle them by mixing them in a cake pan with cow manure and straw I only get 5 or 6 shrooms? The manure is covered in mycellum and I cased with vermiculite on top.


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3138532 - 09/15/04 09:00 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Are you dunking the used cakes?


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: ricelicker]
    #3139272 - 09/16/04 12:15 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Poor water content of manure? Poor fruiting conditions?


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Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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OfflineGolddoor
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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: ricelicker]
    #3139365 - 09/16/04 12:39 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

ricelicker said:
Are you dunking the used cakes?




No just breaking them up into the manure.


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OfflineGolddoor
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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3139375 - 09/16/04 12:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Mixed manure with h20 to a moist feel? And I get bumper crop from the same chamber with pf cakes?


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3139376 - 09/16/04 12:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

They could be dehydrated and soaking up water from the manure. Could make a bad condition worse. Shrooms are 90% water and need lots of it...


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3139391 - 09/16/04 12:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

That's why I would suggest dunking. If they're already spent, you might as well try to juice em up a bit before you go for another flush.


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: ricelicker]
    #3139419 - 09/16/04 12:56 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm I'm not sure...maybe some more experts on manure will get in here..if not you may want to post in advanced and put "manure" in the topic.


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"life is like a drop of rain getting closer and closer to falling into a lake, and then when you hit the lake there is no more rain drop, only the lake."

Growing with bags, start to finish (including my new grain and substrate prep)
Anyone looking to start bulk tubs/mono tubs/shotgun hybrids? Good tubs to use..
How I do grain (old still good tips)
Turn your closet into a fruiting chamber
Casing layer colonization and overlay


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3139683 - 09/16/04 02:00 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

is it aged/composted or fresh manure? I would reccomend spawning onto a mix of at least 50% straw mised with manure.


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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3140733 - 09/16/04 04:47 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

God I hope it's aged! 1yr. optimally IMO


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InvisibleDrJonez
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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: Golddoor]
    #3140828 - 09/16/04 05:05 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the manure is adding nutrients to the mix, but you're going to need to dunk the cakes to add moisture as well.


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OfflineGolddoor
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Re: Why only a few shrooms then nothing? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #3140959 - 09/16/04 05:30 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Gr0wer said:
is it aged/composted or fresh manure? I would reccomend spawning onto a mix of at least 50% straw mised with manure.




Not sure if its aged? I bought the bag of manure at Home Depot. And yes I mixed it 50/50 with straw.


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