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InvisibleKingOftheThing
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HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!!
    #3131257 - 09/13/04 09:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm so happy that a bunch of guys with small penises and huge egos can now again buy mahcine guns. What an amazing day, I'm sure the NRA is happy that the public can buy automatic guns again. I feel so much safer from terrorism knowing that Billy-Bob down the street is packing an AK. I think we should lift the ban on personal nuclear weapons, rpgs and mortar rounds. Lets just all have arsenals, because thats what this country is all about right?


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131271 - 09/13/04 09:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dude, have you ever hunted, those deer sure are willy....... :grin:


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131279 - 09/13/04 09:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Also in the news, marijuana remains illegal.






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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131285 - 09/13/04 09:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If you'd bother to inform yourself rather than typing out yet another knee-jerk Pavlovian response to an issue the Lefties have successfully indoctrinated you on, you'd know that not a single phrase in the above post bears even a nodding acquaintance with reality.

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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131336 - 09/13/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Check the ban, king. It's to ban assault rifles, not automatic weapons, automatic weapons have been banned for a long ass fucking time.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131342 - 09/13/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Dude...for the zillionth time...I think I have said this in about
five posts...

Automatic weapons are illegal in the U.S. You can only get them if
you have a very hard to get, expensive, and background search
intensive license. Usually, only gun dealers have it.

The Assault Rifle ban applies to SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapons. This
ban did not make the semi-automatic assault rifles illegal. It
made it so that certain accessories on NEWLY manufactured guns were
not allowed or they were regulated. So, the guns themselves remained
legal throughout 1994-2004 and the guns that were manufactured before
the ban(the guns that had all of the "bad" characteristics) were
allowed to remain legal and in circulation. For the gazillionth
time...This law did absolutely nothing...even from an anti-gun
position. It is a useless and symbolic law that served
absolutely no purpose(other than to misinform people in my opinion).


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131401 - 09/13/04 10:10 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

KingOftheThing said:
I'm so happy that a bunch of guys with small penises and huge egos can now again buy mahcine guns. What an amazing day, I'm sure the NRA is happy that the public can buy automatic guns again.



Automatic weapons are still illegial. This has not changed since 1934 I believe.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: Skikid16]
    #3131411 - 09/13/04 10:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Skikid16 said:
Dude, have you ever hunted, those deer sure are willy....... :grin:



The second ammendment is not about hunting. All of the anti-gun people need to get this through their heads.


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: z@z.com]
    #3131415 - 09/13/04 10:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ok well i feel stupid if this is all true.... maybe ill read up on it more...i guess im victim of just hearing stuff


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131452 - 09/13/04 10:19 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There's a lot of misinformation out there about gun laws. That's why they keep passing more of them.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131463 - 09/13/04 10:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm so happy that a bunch of guys with small penises and huge egos can now again buy mahcine guns. I feel so much safer from terrorism knowing that Billy-Bob down the street is packing an AK.

congratulations. you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: ]
    #3131486 - 09/13/04 10:23 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

In a related note, marijuana kills brain cells.


That is all.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3131513 - 09/13/04 10:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)


I'm so happy that a bunch of guys with small penises and huge egos
can now again buy mahcine guns

Weeell heeeeck....
I cain't wait to get me a tricked out AR-15  Wooooooo doggies!!!

By the way, my penis is above average in size

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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: z@z.com]
    #3131528 - 09/13/04 10:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

The second ammendment is not about hunting. All of the anti-gun people need to get this through their heads.


I understand that it is not about hunting, its the right to bear arms.  Now which arms should you have a right to bear, well, that's up for debate.

Damn man, did you not notice the  :grin:, which generally, in western cultures, connotates a degree of joviality?


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3131555 - 09/13/04 10:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Dude...for the zillionth time...I think I have said this in about
five posts...

Automatic weapons are illegal in the U.S.  You can only get them if
you have a very hard to get, expensive, and background search
intensive license.  Usually, only gun dealers have it.





Well I am going to correct you. :wink:

Owning a Class 3 weapon requires a background check that validates that you are not felon. (Cost: 0$) Some areas have a "Decline all" attitude. Because of this there are now 5 ways to get approved.

#1 local sheriff.
#2 local police commissioner.
#3 The SO of the Local FBI Field office.
#4 The SO of the local ATF office.
#5 Incorporate. Corporations can own full automatic weapons with out the background check.

Tax on purchase of a class 3 weapon is $200 per automatic weapon. 5$ per short barrel shotgun or silencer.

Oh and the M60 will run you a cool $5000! Man they are a blast to shoot!



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The Assault Rifle ban applies to SEMI-AUTOMATIC weapons.  This
ban did not make the semi-automatic assault rifles illegal.  It
made it so that certain accessories on NEWLY manufactured guns were
not allowed or they were regulated.  So, the guns themselves remained
legal throughout 1994-2004 and the guns that were manufactured before
the ban(the guns that had all of the "bad" characteristics) were
allowed to remain legal and in circulation.  For the gazillionth
time...This law did absolutely nothing...even from an anti-gun
position.  It is a useless and symbolic law that served
absolutely no purpose(other than to misinform people in my opinion).




The "Bad Characteristics" were almost laughable!

#1 A semiautomatic rifle that can accept a detachable magazine and has more than one of the following features: pistol grip, folding or telescoping stock, flash suppressor, threaded barrel, grenade launcher, or bayonet lug.
#2 A semiautomatic shotgun that has more than one of the following features: pistol grip, folding or telescoping stock, detachable magazine, fixed magazine capacity of more than 5 rounds.
#3 A semiautomatic pistol that can accept a detachable magazine that has more than one of the following features: magazine attaches to the pistol outside the grip, threaded barrel, weight of 1.42 kg or more unloaded, barrel shroud, or a semiautomatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

That is what was in it. My big question is other than cosmetics what does it matter? Is a weapon with a pistol grip and a folding or telescoping stock more dangerous than one with out those?


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: Skikid16]
    #3131592 - 09/13/04 10:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I did note the :laugh:, but my point stands.
Quote:

I understand that it is not about hunting, its the right to bear arms. Now which arms should you have a right to bear, well, that's up for debate.




"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: z@z.com]
    #3131619 - 09/13/04 10:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I hear you, so do you think that militias ( which is a broad term, which gun right activists twist to fit their agenda sometimes) should be allowed to bear ANY arms they can get their hands on?

I mean, if we restrict which weapons, then we have infringed, right?


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: Cyber]
    #3131655 - 09/13/04 10:50 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)


Well I am going to correct you.

Please do.

Owning a Class 3 weapon requires a background check that validates
that you are not felon. (Cost: 0$)

Really? I heard to even go about getting an FFL class 3
required a down payment of $1000. I heard that nowadays they were
really bitchy about who they gave it to. I am basing this
information on what I have heard other gun enthusiasts tell me. They
could have been wrong however. I do know for a fact that automatic
rifles and the permit required to go along with them are not
available to anybody who walks in off the street, like the anti-gun
lobby thinks will happen with the expiration of the assault rifle ban.


Some areas have a "Decline all" attitude. Because of this there are
now 5 ways to get approved.

#1 local sheriff.
#2 local police commissioner.
#3 The SO of the Local FBI Field office.
#4 The SO of the local ATF office.
#5 Incorporate. Corporations can own full automatic weapons with out
the background check.

Tax on purchase of a class 3 weapon is $200 per automatic weapon. 5$
per short barrel shotgun or silencer.

Hm..interesting. I might go for my class 3 license. Although,
being wary of the government, I wonder if they will peg me as some
Right-wing "militia" guy and harass me or something.




Oh and the M60 will run you a cool $5000! Man they are a blast to
shoot!

I so want a fully functional MP5(like the Navy Seals use for close
quarters assaults). That gun is so badass.


The "Bad Characteristics" were almost laughable!

I agree.


My big question is other than cosmetics what does it matter? Is a
weapon with a pistol grip and a folding or telescoping stock more
dangerous than one with out those?

No. The anti-gun lobby is not known for being rational
and making efforts to address the gun violence problem in constructive
ways.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: Skikid16]
    #3131735 - 09/13/04 11:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Skikid16 said:
I hear you, so do you think that militias ( which is a broad term, which gun right activists twist to fit their agenda sometimes) should be allowed to bear ANY arms they can get their hands on?

I mean, if we restrict which weapons, then we have infringed, right?



First of all there is a difference between arms and ordinance. Arms are small arms (rifles pistols etc) while ordinance are things like cannons.

Second of all the people are the militia.


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Re: HAPPY REDNECK HILLBILLY MILTIA DAY!!! [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3131758 - 09/13/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Really?  I heard to even go about getting an FFL class 3
required a down payment of $1000.  I heard that nowadays they were
really bitchy about who they gave it to.  I am basing this
information on what I have heard other gun enthusiasts tell me.  They
could have been wrong however.  I do know for a fact that automatic
rifles and the permit required to go along with them are not
available to anybody who walks in off the street, like the anti-gun
lobby thinks will happen with the expiration of the assault rifle ban.





I heard a lot of this stuff before I got my Thompson Submachine gun. Most of it is bunk but make sure to check your state laws. Some states put requirements on the weapon and how it is stored. Just a way to find a reason to turn you down. Oh, If they want to know why you want to own it. Tell them it is an investment. The value doubles every 2 years. :wink:

Quote:



Hm..interesting.  I might go for my class 3 license.  Although,
being wary of the government, I wonder if they will peg me as some
Right-wing "militia" guy and harass me or something.





Normally they don't care as long as you do not have a felony record.


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I so want a fully functional MP5(like the Navy Seals use for close
quarters assaults).  That gun is so badass.





Now you have a problem. Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians. Machine guns which were manufactured prior to the Act's passage are regulated under the National Firearms Act, but those manufactured after the ban cannot ordinarily be sold to or owned by civilians.


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