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OfflineMycoCat
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Grain Spawn
    #3128862 - 09/13/04 11:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I've been reading up on grain spawn, and I've decided that I want to try it.

I was wondering if there is any difference (other than personal preference) between popcorn and WBS? I'm leaning towards popcorn, but if I'm still in the dark about something, I'd like to know before I begin.

Also, in every guide I've read the grain spawn has been innoculated using an agar transfer. Can I just innoculate them using spore syringes?

Thanks for the help.


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Edited by MycoCat (09/13/04 11:54 AM)


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #3128898 - 09/13/04 12:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yes you can innoculate with spore syringes.

As far as the grains go I would say they are both similar difficulty (not hard).

Popcorn is a bit easier to brake up at spawn time though.


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: utopianglory]
    #3131204 - 09/13/04 09:22 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

So how would I go about inoculating the jars? I'm planning on using quart jars with one hole in the center of the lid for air exchange (plugged with Polyfill of course).

Should I add the four holes around the sides like they were pint jars, or can I just inject through the central hole?

Thanks.


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #3131226 - 09/13/04 09:28 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

One central hole, 2 or 3cc, then shake. Limitless inoculation points.


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: Ayrios]
    #3131262 - 09/13/04 09:36 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds easy enough. Thanks.


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #3141550 - 09/16/04 12:39 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

kool im going for the popcorn one also, i've heard some compalints as with nay growing guides that brf cakes can be shitty.another ?
with the popcorn tek i guess your going to let colonize then dump into say afreezer bag after proper measures to stay contam free then break it up and case it with say like i've seen a 50/50 verm pete moss maybe ? damn newbies,but i've done days upon days hours and hours of reading form this site..:)popcorn just seems easier but then i was wondering can you add a little honey to the qaurt jars for the idea of more food for your shroomies? and yet from what i understand you can't dunk popcorn..lol but could cold shock if the need comes up?


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #3143255 - 09/16/04 01:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I didn't understand what the difference was at first either. Magash said at one point that he thought rye was better for casing and WBS for spawning to bulk.

Recently this was made clear when using both as spawn for a bunch of straw. With WBS you can crumble it up into tiny pieces which can be spread fully across a surface. Mycelium is going to spread from each individual grain, so the more you have the better.

Rye is probably just as easy as popcorn and seems to be more widely used (particularly with the experienced growers). If you want to make casings, try rye if you can find it. If you want to spawn to bulk, give WBS a shot.

Hopefully this makes sense


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: dustz]
    #3143341 - 09/16/04 01:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Was justi in the Feed Store today. That place RULES. Anyway, I saw a bag of "white millet" with a nutritional breakdown of the stuff for birds. Would this be the right thing to get?
How careful do we need to be when using WBS/Millet in terms of what it's treated with? Don't want any antifungals in my substrate, y'know?
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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: GnuBobo]
    #3144031 - 09/16/04 04:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Any birdseed mix works. Look for a mix with the least sunflower because they dont support healthy growth, ive grown exclusively on sunflower and it sucks. Ive made jars without even rinsing with success and no mess. But pre cooking and rinsing is better because it washes away the starch and antifungals.


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #3146832 - 09/17/04 03:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Rye


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: Magash]
    #3148365 - 09/17/04 03:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ok popcorn is an option i think even for a newbie like so. but then i like the hwole idea of dunk case roll double case whole kitten and furballs idea. would you say growing with the idea of having options on brf cakes vs popcorn which leaves ya with only cold shock a better choice for the newbs.. i can't even decide wich strained to grow..i don't want nothing to strong my girl has never done some shroom's i had some one time the had like scales i shit you not.they had a green white stem which turned purple instantly upon breaking,and they had like an orange ring around the cap like at the edge fuckin wierd shit


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Re: Grain Spawn [Re: MycoCat]
    #15937494 - 03/12/12 02:20 PM (6 years, 3 months ago)

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