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 electronic music...my newest obsession 
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2 raves and im hooked....i never really gave this type of music the time of day, but now my collection of rock has taken a back seat to my newest obsession. i found this...Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music http://www.di.fm/edmguide/# and have been looking through it for about 45 min now....i love how it gives samples of all the sub-genres, along with a brief comentary on its history and influences, in a spiderweb-over-time-layout...heh, anyway, just thought id throw it up if anyone else might be interested in checking it out...
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3124589 - 09/12/04 12:26 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm getting into that to........pretty cool! 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3124596 - 09/12/04 12:27 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the link, I've been getting into a lot of chill, ambient stuff lately.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
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"Happy Hardcore is like the spoiled little sibling of the Hardcore family, who got all the breaks, all the looks, all the money, all the chicks and all the successes of life without having to work for it. Just about despised by every other genre, Happy Hardcore is the most popular Hardcore music of all, with its signature chipmunk vocals and silly sing-a-long anthems and shameless hug-a-thon optimism that pisses everybody off to no end. This is the core realm of the candy ravers. Some of the stuff feels so godawfully childish that I feel like a pedophile just listening to it, but its not all bad. Truth be known: ALL the world's Happy Hardcore is made by only 12 guys, who have more pseudonyms than a shark has teeth, and who churn it out at such a feverish pace you'd almost think that there's probably a program that makes it for them. Just randomize the key values, get Sugar from YTV to sing the lyrics, and away you go."
LOL 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3124639 - 09/12/04 12:41 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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ahh he forgot the experimental/ambient shit... that's where the money's at
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3124659 - 09/12/04 12:48 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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just avoid the commerical shit - the crap you can purchase on BestBuy...it generally sucks.
...look for vinyl...or cd imports...or underground artists.
oh yeah, trance is for pussies on too many drugs
who dont know any better..or for hippies that dont know electronic music.
bi0 record recommendation of the day: Anthony Rother: Hacker : Psi49net Records, Germany 2002. find that asap.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Redstorm]
#3124661 - 09/12/04 12:48 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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i really dont know that many electronic artists, but the few stuff i do have i love! i listened to alot of infected mushroom in the past but now i'm definitely enjoying the more mellow stuff and am listening to shpongle quite a bit.
if anyone can recommend some good ambient artists, maybe like shpongle but it doesnt have to be, that would be awesome!
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Psilygirl]
#3124673 - 09/12/04 12:50 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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you should listen to merzbow.
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schmektron
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Psilygirl]
#3124685 - 09/12/04 12:53 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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uhhh man heres everything i have
minimal shit:
basic channel
fluxion
scion
plastikman
porter ricks/techno animal
ambient/experimental shit (fuck labels, just listen):
autechre
oval
aphex twin
boards of canada
mouse on mars
coil
matmos
biosphere
the orb
squarepusher
amon tobin
m83
mum
dj shadow
dj food
wagon christ
plug
fennesz
manitoba
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schmektron
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124693 - 09/12/04 12:55 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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YEAH you should listen to merzbow then top it off with some oval
i love the sound of grating noise,,,  .. sigh
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3124703 - 09/12/04 12:58 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks guys i'm downloading a bunch!
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3124710 - 09/12/04 01:00 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey man - you have good taste. basic channel, fuck yes. coil, fucking evil. dj food, '90s booya. scion arranges basic channel - I love that shit.
we should share - you down?
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124714 - 09/12/04 01:02 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah.. soulseek?
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Vvellum
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3124722 - 09/12/04 01:04 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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you know it.
i just switched over to linux, and havent installed nicotine yet.
I'll pm you my name tho - should have things set up tomorrow-ish.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3124734 - 09/12/04 01:07 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you heard ego tripp's, the bigplay back? you look like yer down with old school hiphop w/ your avatar. http://www.discogs.com/release/201129
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124736 - 09/12/04 01:08 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
bi0 said:
oh yeah, trance is for pussies on too many drugs
who dont know any better..or for hippies that dont know electronic music.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3124746 - 09/12/04 01:10 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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you know what im talking about.
the first step is admitting the truth 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3124747 - 09/12/04 01:10 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've got about 60 gigs of Psytrance.... if you wanna know what that's about, PM me.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124751 - 09/12/04 01:11 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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bi0 said:
you know what im talking about.
the first step is admitting the truth
your elitism makes me want to vomit 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3124753 - 09/12/04 01:12 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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the Orb and Orbital
are 2 of my favorites
I never trip without this music
Orb tracks:little fluffy clouds,toxigene,blue room.
Orbital tracks:The box,satan,halicon
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: joe666]
#3124762 - 09/12/04 01:14 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I got like 14 orb cd's or something like that
and 5 orbital cd's
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3124766 - 09/12/04 01:15 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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are you sure its not the trance?
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schmektron
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124772 - 09/12/04 01:17 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'll check it out
music elitists unite!
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3124909 - 09/12/04 01:47 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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are you sure its not the trance?
o0oo0o0o0o...think yer funny eh? 
yer lucky we're in the pub
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3125236 - 09/12/04 05:39 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just got the new DJ Micro cd today. Pretty cool shit.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: silversoul7]
#3125241 - 09/12/04 05:47 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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tag for later
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3125720 - 09/12/04 11:17 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Hey, could I grab some Boards of Canada off you on Soulseek?
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schmektron
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Redstorm]
#3125855 - 09/12/04 12:01 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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ya ~ PM
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abhi
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3125971 - 09/12/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
fortyounces2freedom said:
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bi0 said:
oh yeah, trance is for pussies on too many drugs
who dont know any better..or for hippies that dont know electronic music.
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40 indirectly got me into trance ...
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: abhi]
#3126017 - 09/12/04 01:17 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good rock bands in good genres beat good electronic on every level.
/me sighs. lol
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3126221 - 09/12/04 02:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rock owns electronic definitely, I just wanted to broaden my spenctrum.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3126260 - 09/12/04 03:06 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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"if anyone can recommend some good ambient artists, maybe like shpongle but it doesnt have to be, that would be awesome!"
I sure can.
Shulman
Entheogenic
Mystery of the Yeti: Volumes 1 and 2
Mystery of the Thirteen Crystal Skulls
Asura
Aluna
Smashmethod
Bluetech
Global Communication
Makyo
The Orb
Spacetime Continuum
The Infinity Project
Zero One
That's it for now. 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3126272 - 09/12/04 03:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have been listening to electronic music constantly since about 1993 and own several hundred vinyl records as well as about a thousand cds and about 40GB of mp3/ogg, and I'll be the first to admit that 99% of electronic music blows. All the generic boomboomboom crap like trance and generic house and all the music that's in commericals (or could very well be in a commerical), fuck that. but the remaining 1% is incredible, beautiful, fucked-up music. But I guess that is the nature of pop music - I'd say that 99% of rockbased music sucks as well.
I'm a fan of the exception - not the mainstream.
If the music is not inspired by or have direct roots in Stockhausen or John Cage or Steve Reich, then I am not interested. I need brains and theory behind the sounds, otherwise it's just more generic crap to me. I guess im not interested in dance music anymore - give me some head music.
is this elitism? eh, I dont know or care. I've been around the scene for a long time and have high standards, I guess.
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abhi
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3126575 - 09/12/04 05:19 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
vivid said:
Good rock bands in good genres beat good electronic on every level.
/me sighs. lol
I'll always be a rock guy at heart
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 Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: abhi]
#3126596 - 09/12/04 05:25 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
aje said:
Quote:
fortyounces2freedom said:
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bi0 said:
oh yeah, trance is for pussies on too many drugs
who dont know any better..or for hippies that dont know electronic music.
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40 indirectly got me into trance ...
Moi aussie mon ami! ("me too my friend" en Francais) and there ain't a day goes by that i don't thank/bless him for it
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3126841 - 09/12/04 07:08 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, if you really think about it , a rock band is nothing more than a synthesizer. For example, 4 different guys (vocals, guitar, bass, drams) combine their sounds to form a complex production. Plus, and electric guitar is about as "electronic" as you're going to get, same with a microphone. Then you have to get a PA system and all the little auxiliary pieces of equipment to play live or record or whatever, not mention a studio, and whatever medium you're going to record on.
I do enjoy rock, but a rock'n'roll band is quite limited compared to a "synthesizer" (i'm going to lump all electronic music under synthesized music... because i'm lazy), which can produce shit that you've never heard before. I guess the only thing that is *really* different about rock is the vocals.
Electronic music/hip hop/rock/whatever can potentially be bland and predictable, that's why i don't dig trance/house...
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3127143 - 09/12/04 08:31 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I dont think comparing a group of independant minds and masters of individual instruments to a synthesizer shows much except that you dont know about the spirit behind music. And a electric guitar, still has physically vibrating strings, the vibration is only amplified differently... when you have a physical object to manipulate the sound can be manipulated to control the emotion and spirit of the note. If you dig synths just because they make different sounds, you should try banging a stick on things. or something.
On the other hand, there is some electronic that I've heard while tripping and enjoyed. I was just making an offhand comment earlier, but yeah.. a rock band is in no way comparable to a synthesizer.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3127209 - 09/12/04 08:49 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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i do bang on random objects
i'm just intellectually masterbating - don't worry about me
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: schmektron]
#3127425 - 09/12/04 09:42 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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i go where i please. 
im not here.
this isnt happening.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3127580 - 09/12/04 10:29 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Here are some albums you shouldn't be caught without if you're getting into electronica:
Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole
Chemical Brothers - Exit Planet Dust
Prodigy - Fat of the land
Prodigy - Music of the Jilted Generation
Fatboy Slim - Better Living Through Chemistry
Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way Baby
Orbital - Brown (it doesn't have a name but the album is brown)
Daft Punk - Homework
Crystal Method - Vegas
These are some of the basics, if you like them pm me and I can give you some more beats for your brain. I'd say I've listened to each of these albums around 100-200 times already and I can still listen to them. That good.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: pB0t]
#3127740 - 09/12/04 10:59 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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add to that any aphex twin or squarepusher or shpongle album.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3127765 - 09/12/04 11:07 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
vivid said:
Good rock bands in good genres beat good electronic on every level.
/me sighs. lol
good electronic->   <-good rock and roll
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who, squatting upon the ground,
Held his heart in his hands,
And ate of it.
I said, "Is it good, friend?"
"It is bitter, bitter," he answered;
"But I like it
Because it is bitter,
And because it is my heart."
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3127772 - 09/12/04 11:08 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been getting into electronic stuff the last couple weeks.
Boards of Canada = key
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wrestler_az
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: BubblerBoy]
#3127902 - 09/12/04 11:51 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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BubblerBoy said:
good electronic-> <-good rock and roll
LOL...
im still a rocker at heart. and i would have to agree with vivid, a good rock band beats the techno anyday....but i really like this stuff, and havent heard much of it, so im haveing some fun listening to some new music, broadening my horizions so to speak
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3132865 - 09/14/04 12:35 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
vivid said:
Good rock bands in good genres beat good electronic on every level.
/me sighs. lol
apples and oranges.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
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Quote:
bi0 said:
I have been listening to electronic music constantly since about 1993 and own several hundred vinyl records as well as about a thousand cds and about 40GB of mp3/ogg, and I'll be the first to admit that 99% of electronic music blows. All the generic boomboomboom crap like trance and generic house and all the music that's in commericals (or could very well be in a commerical), fuck that. but the remaining 1% is incredible, beautiful, fucked-up music. But I guess that is the nature of pop music - I'd say that 99% of rockbased music sucks as well.
I'm a fan of the exception - not the mainstream.
If the music is not inspired by or have direct roots in Stockhausen or John Cage or Steve Reich, then I am not interested. I need brains and theory behind the sounds, otherwise it's just more generic crap to me. I guess im not interested in dance music anymore - give me some head music.
is this elitism? eh, I dont know or care. I've been around the scene for a long time and have high standards, I guess.
how very self-limiting.
sux 4 u. 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
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not being interested in what I consider "generic music" is self-limiting? I've heard all of it - in fact, I was probably going to parties when most of ya'll were in elementary school. I'm hardly being closedminded and self-limiting. I just think trance and other boring beats are overated & mediocre & more fitting for car commericals.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
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not being interested in what I consider "generic music" is self-limiting? I've heard all of it - in fact, I was probably going to parties when most of ya'll were in elementary school. I'm hardly being closedminded and self-limiting. I just think trance and other boring beats are overated & mediocre & more fitting for car commericals.
have you ever thought,
what music you consider 'generic' could very well be considered 'awesome' music to others. 
also,
no one gives a shit about your shitty jaded views on music
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3133210 - 09/14/04 04:33 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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be nice 40....i care about his jaded views, just as much as i care about yours
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
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ppl like that need a good bitch slapping.
which reminds me, im going to bitchslap you a few times
while yer on dr00gz, in Nov.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
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by the way....i trance....
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
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STIMULIIIIIIIIII
gotta love it!
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3133219 - 09/14/04 04:38 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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you & i both!
Trance
im going to upload 2 very AWESOME sets for this thread.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
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lookni foward to it....by the way, i found a message board for the az rave scene, gonna be going to earthdance here in tucson....i posted our group shot of nw in a thread there, and it seems that a few of the members on that site know phase, vamp, freezy, oDin, and annie.....
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
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right on!
there is an earthdance here in socal too
on the same day. http://www.earthdance.org/la/
you going?
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
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gonna be going to earthdance here in tucson...
ya, got my ticket today
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3133244 - 09/14/04 05:00 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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(sorry..a bit tired)
you arent going alone are you?
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
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ya, all my friends down here are either not into this sort of thing, or gotta work....its all good though, gonna go meet some peeps doin this one sober as well....lol it will be fun none-the-less
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
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Ishkur's Guide is the bomb! I love browsing through it, listening to the samples. But if this is your first exposure to electronic music, let me point out one major flaw in the guide. While most of these genres were invented and flourished in Europe, Ishkur makes it sound like electronic music is a US phenomenon, while in reality the US electronic music scene is almost non existant. The few groups and projects that do exist are bleak copies of copies, but there are some guys like Cex, Nautilis and Venetian Snares that's beginning to make the US scene viable.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3133261 - 09/14/04 05:12 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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right on..yer a pretty charismatic dude,
should be no problem finding some new friends.
hope you have fun times dude.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3133262 - 09/14/04 05:16 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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im pretty sure fun times are a guarenteed thing
ill post some pics as well...
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3134760 - 09/14/04 02:32 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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pics = k3y.
here are those sets:
Dyk-Technik-CD1.mp3
GU 24 Nick Warren Rey kjavik CD2.mp3
clicky or RIGHT click, "save target as..." option.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3135216 - 09/14/04 04:21 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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have you ever thought,
what music you consider 'generic' could very well be considered 'awesome' music to others.
also,
no one gives a shit about your shitty jaded views on music
then why do you always get into a hissyfit whenever I state my own personal opinion (trance = cheese, trance = formula)?
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: plexus]
#3135700 - 09/14/04 06:05 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Dig it, psytrance is where it's AT - Infected Mushroom and Hallucinogen are key. Fuck cheese trance/most other kinds of trance - that stuff IS wack. But some good PSY or PSY/Dub/ambient like
Shpongle, Doof, Youth, Ott.
Definately as complex/musical/emotional as any good rock music. Repitition is key in both types of music and is not a bad thing.
Variation on themes yo!
Don't forget how much truly cheesy and repetitive (in the bad way) rock there is. Just as bad as cheese trance man. Good music is good music no matter how it's made.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3135727 - 09/14/04 06:11 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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probably because he likes that music and can recognize the intricacies that differ between artists of the genre, and claiming that a type of music is "generic" and "formulated" is pretty insulting.. I dont have the same taste in music as 40, but i dont try to tell him that what he listens to is crap. In all seriousness, its awesome your broadening your musical horizens Wrestler, only good things can come of it.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3135865 - 09/14/04 06:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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In all seriousness, its awesome your broadening your musical horizens Wrestler, only good things can come of it.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
#3136080 - 09/14/04 07:38 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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geez, this is like telling a bunch of Britney Spears fans that pop music blows. I guess I should hold back next time - ya'll are a sensitive lot.
wrestler asked for suggestions, and I offered my suggestions of what I think is good and what is not good in electronic music (as a long-time fan I think I am qualified to give such recommendations).
Have you never put out criticism of a type of music, type of food, type of car, type of clothing, type of drug, type of movie, type of car, type of computer, type of politic, type of sport, etc.? Of course you have - we all have. So, why cant I offer my opinion on trance without people being crybabies? If there is disagreement, lets actually discuss why.
I can recogize the intricacies of the trance genre just fine, and I can also recognize why trance/progressive house is often regarded as the "pop" of electronic music.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3136754 - 09/14/04 10:03 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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thank you for your suggestions....
people have different tastes...what kind of response would you expect when telling a bunch of britney spears fans that pop music blows? they are fans of that music you think blows, so yea, they might get a little defensive/offended by your statement...i dont think anyone is crying about your opinion, rather the way you throw it out there. you dont like trance, thats fine...no need to bash it though....
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: wrestler_az]
#3136879 - 09/14/04 10:33 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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all you need is wood and rocks
bang bang
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#3136900 - 09/14/04 10:37 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Damn... yall make me feel old. ive been listening to electronic music since i was five.... thats over 14 years!!!!!! Jebus... Yall are just now gettin here? I feel sorry for you! You have so much to catch up on!... 
I think electronic music is the "gateway" drug to "higher music conciousness" ... well... imo anyway...
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: oDin]
#3137129 - 09/14/04 11:39 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
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have you ever thought,
what music you consider 'generic' could very well be considered 'awesome' music to others.
also,
no one gives a shit about your shitty jaded views on music
then why do you always get into a hissyfit whenever I state my own personal opinion (trance = cheese, trance = formula)?
cuz they're jaded. no one likes a pessimistic sour puss...
your views are retarded. shoot me for telling you like it is.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Zero7a1]
#3137272 - 09/15/04 12:30 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I think electronic music is the "gateway" drug to "higher music conciousness"
couldnt have put it better myself.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: vivid]
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probably because he likes that music and can recognize the intricacies that differ between artists of the genre, and claiming that a type of music is "generic" and "formulated" is pretty insulting.. I dont have the same taste in music as 40, but i dont try to tell him that what he listens to is crap. In all seriousness, its awesome your broadening your musical horizens Wrestler, only good things can come of it.
thats all its about for me, broadening my musical appreciation.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3137319 - 09/15/04 12:54 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I fail to see how having higher standards for music equates to being jaded. Explain yourself.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
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If the music is not inspired by or have direct roots in Stockhausen or John Cage or Steve Reich, then I am not interested
self-limiting.
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otherwise it's just more generic crap to me.
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is this elitism? eh, I dont know or care. I've been around the scene for a long time 
jaded.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3138923 - 09/15/04 01:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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hahaha, werd. 
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: 40oz]
#3139407 - 09/15/04 03:52 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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so, not being interested in a particular subgenre of music is self-limiting, even if I am quite familiar with it and have been since the evolution of trance from the German techno scene?
I'm sure you're not into scat (I think), does that mean you're limiting yourself? um, no. Just means you know what you like and dont like.
sorry, I am not jaded - you seemed to have left out a large portion of what I said - I explained that I am interested in music that is more complex and less mainstream than trance. This is being in tune with one's taste, not being jaded. Yes, I have been around awhile and I have learned what is good and what is disposable after time. And once again, I'm interested in shifting the discussion from me to why I think trance is is the pop of electronic music - but something tells me you're more interested in flaming and smileys than an actual discussion about music. If so, peace the fuck out man.
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Re: electronic music...my newest obsession [Re: Vvellum]
#3139680 - 09/15/04 05:00 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'd rather partake in enjoying music for what
I may concieve it to be, and form my own opinions,
lest they not be as biased, jaded & tainted as yours.
so rather than "discuss" about what is better than who
is better than what,
ill just leave it at that,
& add a gremlin here:
& one here:
and add a pic here:
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