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    #3124373 - 09/12/04 01:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hi, I've been doing a lot of environmental studies of water and phosphate levels with regards to algal blooms, and as many of you may know the effects of large quantities of phosphate in water allows algae to grow extremely fast and hence causes algal blooms.

It is because of this I would like to know has anyone tried fertilizing their substrates with a water/phosphate solution and if so what were the results?

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Re: Phosphate [Re: Dr_Nick_Riviera]
    #3124465 - 09/12/04 01:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I would suggest that ag waste and industrial organic waste be mixed with this waste water and used to make vermi-composts then put back on gardens and fields or mixed with topsoil used to rehabilitate earthworks

Ive used Calcium phosphate in place of Lime but ist too eary to say if it makes a difference. I figured more ATP means more vigour
could be wrong

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Re: Phosphate [Re: psiloz]
    #3124648 - 09/12/04 02:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


psiloz said:
I figured more ATP means more vigour
could be wrong

you're probably right, the more phosphate available to use the more energy available. but if you were to add phosphate, then the limiting factor now depends on how much adenine (in the form of AMP or ADP) is available... but it cant hurt i suppose to add enough phosphate so that the AMP/ADP is maxed out!

i also could be wrong, as i am just pissing in the wind here with my elementary biochem knowledge, i have no idea what other effects too much phosphate might negatively have (i.e., extra phosphate can be used by contaminants, etc)...

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Re: Phosphate [Re: Psilygirl]
    #3125546 - 09/12/04 11:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I think that ATP is sold commercially also.Please inform me if i am wrong.

Since i started my mushroom hobby i always wondered about adding ATP in one or other stable form in the substrate.Could it be utilised by the mycelium? I think it can,no hard evidence though for that...

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Re: Phosphate [Re: Dr_Nick_Riviera]
    #3125548 - 09/12/04 12:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

a lot of my mush cult books call for potassium phospate in every agar and substrate recipe, along with other chems. it is definitely a beneficial nute source.

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