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Nukes?
    #3121656 - 09/11/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Why is it that we go on the warpath when a country(full of brown people, mind you) might be close to obtaining nukes when we already have nukes ourselves? If anything, are not a bigger threat to these countries than they are to us? We have shown that we will invade a country unprovoked...


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Re: Nukes? [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3121824 - 09/11/04 12:18 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Because the Iranian mad Mullahs have shown themselves delusional enough to actually use them.

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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3121831 - 09/11/04 12:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Hmm yet the only people to have ever used them are....


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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3121835 - 09/11/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

How many countries have actually used nukes? I seem to have forgotten... :smirk:


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Re: Nukes? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3121907 - 09/11/04 12:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

LOL! Predictable response.

The fact that the US has used them only to end the war with Japan when they were brand new technology six decades ago proves my point. We already know that the US has the wisdom to not use them. Everything we know about the Mad Mullahs shows they will use them.

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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3121963 - 09/11/04 01:05 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Unless they're outright suicidal(the mullahs, I mean. Not suicide bombers), then I don't think they'll use them. Like Ancalagon said before, if they used a nuclear bomb on us then sure it would be tragic for us, but it would mean the end of existence for them, and I'm pretty sure they're aware of that.


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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3121967 - 09/11/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

We already know that the US has the wisdom to not use them.

I don't think it is wisdom so much as they are forced not to use them, especially not openly, by public opinion. The US didn't stop detonating nuclear warheads after Nagasaki, nor did they stop when they learned about the long-lasting effects (some global) of nuclear explosions. They officially conducted 1054 tests, exploding multiple warheads in many of them. They exploded bombs for over 45 years after the war ended. The Russians showed even less restraint by exploding the largest bomb ever. Now there are rumours about a new nuclear program in the US to develop small tactical warheads, which unlike ballistic missiles and MAD, are meant to be used. They would use them on anti-ship missiles and such.

Wisdom? Hardly...


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Re: Nukes? [Re: trendal]
    #3121992 - 09/11/04 01:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Apples and oranges. Surely you can't be conflating testing different designs knowing your enemies are doing the same with dropping them on other countries. .

As for SS7's comment about the Mad Mullahs knowing that to use them would be suicide -- have you not heard the term "martyr"? These are Islamic fundamentalists we're talking about here. You don't think it possible they would accept a glorious death and rewards from Allah for finally wiping out those pesky Zionist Joooos?



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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3122020 - 09/11/04 01:26 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think the Mullahs or any of the religious fanatics should have nukes, but I don't think anyone should have them either. I also didn't say testing was the same as dropping one on a city, though again the US is the only country to have done so. You tried to say they showed Wisdom in "not using" nukes, well they haven't. They've shown a reckless disregard towards the local and global effects, health and political, of exploding nuclear weapons on the Earth. From the tests performed on the continental US alone, an expected 120,000 cases of thyroid cancer have/will develop with an expected 6,000 deaths. They completely destroyed a series of islands in the Pacific, many of which were inhabited and who's residents are still unable to return home. They even "accidentally" showered a bunch of them with highly radioactive fallout when they exploded the first hydrogen bomb.


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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3122026 - 09/11/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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We already know that the US has the wisdom to not use them.




LOL! Surreal response ignoring reality!


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Re: Nukes? [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3122028 - 09/11/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Nukes? [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3122031 - 09/11/04 01:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Discuss the problem with these people:

http://www.activistchat.com/phpBB2/index.php


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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3122033 - 09/11/04 01:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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pinksharkmark said:
As for SS7's comment about the Mad Mullahs knowing that to use them would be suicide -- have you not heard the term "martyr"? These are Islamic fundamentalists we're talking about here. You don't think it possible they would accept a glorious death and rewards from Allah for finally wiping out those pesky Zionist Joooos?



Frankly, I don't think the mullahs have it in them. If you look at all the "martyrs," none of them are rulers of countries. The mullahs want power, and they can't have that if they're dead. They strike me as the types that would send others to die for them, but would not sacrifice their own lives for such a cause.


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Re: Nukes? [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3122037 - 09/11/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Japan and Germany were working on the atom bomb during WWII.

After the war it was determined that Japan had no nuclear weapons program. Germany had started one but was not very close to having any nukes when they were defeated.


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Re: Nukes? [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3122039 - 09/11/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Nukes? [Re: Great_Satan]
    #3122064 - 09/11/04 01:40 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting that someone who hates Islam as much as you would be interested in liberating and Islamic country.


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Re: Nukes? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3122102 - 09/11/04 01:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Nukes? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3122104 - 09/11/04 01:51 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Frankly, I don't think the mullahs have it in them.

Oh, well that makes it okay then. By all means let's do as John F Kerry suggests and provide them the low enriched uranium they require in order to build a few nukes.

The mullahs want power, and they can't have that if they're dead.

And of course all the people in charge of building, testing, storing, transporting, etc. are mullahs holding power. None of these people would ever think of going down in Islamic history as the glorious martyr who provided the whackjobs the means to exterminate the filthy Jooooos forever.

Uh huh.

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Re: Nukes? [Re: GazzBut]
    #3122116 - 09/11/04 01:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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LOL! Surreal response ignoring reality!

What reality are you talking about? Two cities got nuked six decades ago, days apart. None have been nuked since. That's reality.

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Re: Nukes? [Re: Phred]
    #3122197 - 09/11/04 02:13 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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silversoul7 writes:

Frankly, I don't think the mullahs have it in them.

Oh, well that makes it okay then. By all means let's do as John F Kerry suggests and provide them the low enriched uranium they require in order to build a few nukes.



Uh...did I say anything of the sort?

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The mullahs want power, and they can't have that if they're dead.

And of course all the people in charge of building, testing, storing, transporting, etc. are mullahs holding power. None of these people would ever think of going down in Islamic history as the glorious martyr who provided the whackjobs the means to exterminate the filthy Jooooos forever.

Uh huh.




Uh...we're not just talking about them sacrificing their own lives. We're talking about them sacrificing their entire country, which I don't think Islamic history would look upon too kindly. Not to mention that the "filthy Jooooos" have nukes as well.


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