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Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too
    #3117701 - 09/10/04 09:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I went out yesterday in hopes of reaping the rewards from all of the huricane rains, but I was sadly left with only this small batch of cubes . It's still just too hot and all of the rain could not get them up in numbers.

However, I found these copelandias out in force. Man these things bruised extremely blue. This one was collected by a friend and he just packed it away in his pocket. I guess I need to explain again how delicate these things are. What's so crazy is that I never told him what to look for in copes. He just saw this one and another and had a feeling. Then he picked it and checked for the bluing.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3117998 - 09/10/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, It is very easy to kleep Copes from bruising blue when handling and transporting in a bag form one foot to the next. Here are two examples form two different days of fresh picked copes with the mionimum amount of oxidation due to the way I lifted them from the manure haps and placed them in a container and did not move a single shroom as I wandered the field picking them.





|They can be handled but never squeezed in any manner whatsoever.

HEre are some a few hours later when i measured them and still no bluing occuring.

Of course if I squeezed it they would blue. They can also blue natuerally when they are growing from uinsect, wind, falling leaf damage or a buffalo or cow brushing alongside them when chewing crass or movement.



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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3118094 - 09/10/04 12:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

does bluing ruin the goods?


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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3118331 - 09/10/04 02:04 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yep. The blue is the result of psilocin oxidation. Once it's oxidized it is no longer psilocin and no longer active. That's why it's important to gently handle shrooms.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3118360 - 09/10/04 02:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Not too much if eaten in a few hours or a day. They can be stored in a paper bag in the door side of an refrigerator for five days or so. The bluing is an indication of the oxidation of psilocine. Your body needs to convert the psilocine to psilocybine in your body for the shrooms in order to become active in your system.

It has been discussed that the bluing is not an indication of potency although that is what the massive bluing in baeos, cyanescens, subaeruginosa and azurescens suggests.

btw, baeos lose over 80 percent of their potency in drying.

azures lose over 50% in less than four months of storage.

Liberty caps and Psilocybe cyanescens hold 0ver 90% of their potency for years. One collection of semilanceata from London gathered in 1851 were analysed in 1977 and found to be as potent as liberty caps from the PNW stored from 1976.

Copes are generally also active at one dried gram to two.

In 1960 a mother and two 12 and 13-year-old children accidently consumed two fresh ounces of Copelandia ctyanescens and ended up in the Emergency room in MEnton France. The case is recorded in the literature.

A fresh ounce of Copelandia muhsrooms can get from 1-2 or as many as 10-15 people high on a fresh ounce of Copes.

Depending on the variety and the amount of shrooms in the bag weighing one fresh ounce.

mj. However, if handled and dried properly anywhere from ten to thirty doses in a dried ounce. Or as low as three or four if not handled and dried properly. They are potent when fresh, 7 to 10 medium shrooms can be a potent high.

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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3119075 - 09/10/04 04:55 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hi MJ,

Thanks for all of the relavent info. This was the first time I really found copes more than one or two at a time.

I think that next time that I go hunting, I will take a small cardboard box to use for collecting copelandia shrooms. I'm thinking a cigar box or something similar should work good. I tried to be as gentle as I could with them but they had to go in the bag with the cubes and they kind of got knocked around. Also, like you said some of them were bruised when I found them. Besides my friend that just shoved them in his pocket. At any rate the caps, for the most part, remained unbruised. They are halfway to cracker dry now and sealed with dessicant in my vacuum container.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3120371 - 09/10/04 11:07 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Care to contibute a print or two to the cause. GEORGIA copelandia.

trade? give me a PM.

Love to put them under the scope and compare them to all the other Copelandias floating around the OMC.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3120530 - 09/10/04 11:38 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

mj, GREAT info on storing and potency... can you comment on Weilii keepability and loss of postency during drying? Also, you left out Cubes from your list and I think you would know those best.... how much potency is lost after 1 year dry?


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: mjshroomer]
    #3120913 - 09/11/04 01:17 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

what is baeo.

+thanks for the kickass info.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3121020 - 09/11/04 01:49 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Psilocybe baeocystius (blue fuckers)



mj

Cubes can last a few years.

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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too( And More_NEW PICS) [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3141115 - 09/15/04 11:02 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I went back out today. I got a few more cubes and a bunch more copes.



And here's my drying setup. All are fanned dry at 70- 74 F (room temp at my house)


:edit: I took out the other pic because it was just redundant.


Edited by Ekstaza (09/16/04 10:07 PM)


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3152313 - 09/18/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I went back and once again struck gold. It seems that the cubes in my field are lying low, but the copes are out and about.

Here's the pics


I still found a few cubes though
See


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3152411 - 09/18/04 11:58 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

awesome copes! never had them, how many grams dry is a decent dose similar to 3g dried cubes?... you got some good cubes as well, I gave up on cubes once the weilii came out :mushroom2:


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: 2Experimental]
    #3152437 - 09/19/04 12:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't tried the copes yet but I believe that 1 dry gram is supposed to do the trick. I'll most certainly take at least 1.5.

I wish that I had the opportunity to hunt Weilii. Oh well, I'll just have to stick to cubes and copes.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3157462 - 09/20/04 09:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome finds Ekstaza!~

It is probably the first time ive seen/heard someone finding
Copelandia cyanescens in Georgia.

You're in georgia right?

Great collections though.
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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #3157685 - 09/20/04 10:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

GGreatOne234 said:
Awesome finds Ekstaza!~

It is probably the first time ive seen/heard someone finding
Copelandia cyanescens in Georgia.

You're in georgia right?

Great collections though.
Awesome.




Yeah, I'm in Georgia. The field is actually around an hour to an hour and a half away from the Florida border. I was glad to see them in such numbers. I had found one or two before but never more than that.
I'm thinking that the heat of August and September are bringing them out.
Could these warmer temps be the reason for the copes coming up more than the cubes?


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3172565 - 09/23/04 11:53 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I ended up with over 10 dry grams of copelandias. I can't wait to give these a go. My trip buddy is coming to town this weekend so guess what. I'm thinking 2 dry grams each.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3199501 - 09/30/04 12:30 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Does anybody know of cope look alikes in dung. If not I just scored thousands of them.


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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: snoogygiggle]
    #3199605 - 09/30/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Panaeolus antillarum macroscopically resemble Copelandia species at some stages of their growth and development.

Read and check the species section in the Shroomeries ltimate Shroom Guide.

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Re: Copes_a_Plenty_And a Few Cubes Too [Re: Ekstaza]
    #3199613 - 09/30/04 01:02 PM (12 years, 4 months ago)

Ekstaza,

It's probably the August heat along with all of the hurricanes...thats got to be helping out the situation!


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