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 uncarved_block
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 Re: Vermiculite Outlawed.  [Re: shellacct]
#312177 - 05/08/01 09:15 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wouldn't Perilite work about the same? Is that just a brand name of verm?
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Perlite is something else all together.
It's not a brand name of verm.
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magnusra
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: ]
#312238 - 05/08/01 10:33 AM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Vermiculite is a mineral either derived from or similar to mica which is then puffed. Perlite is volcanic glass that is then puffed. So the perlite is completely void of nutrients (Although I doubt verm has much) and also a little more difficult to work with given the abrasive dust. Also I don't think the perlite has the same amount of water retention, but I could be wrong. It wicks it well but I don't think it actually can hold as much, but again I could be wrong.
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shellacct
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no, perlite is moe of an aerous rock, its usually very hard. vermiculite is softer and can hold more water i believe.
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
#312451 - 05/08/01 04:13 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well fuck, I made some phone calls a week or two ago and the first place I called looking for it said they carried it and had all kinds in stock, and I think that was an agway...btw I too am in new england.
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: Krendle]
#313378 - 05/09/01 06:42 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm currently using Schultz "Moisture Plus Potting Mix" (i've listed the ingredience above) and I currently have Thai and Pesa cased in it, its colonzing extremely fast, much faster then the 50/50+, and I'm guessing its due to the compost and lime in it. I'll keep you guys posted on the size of the flush in comparison to the old 50/50 I use to use.
Its a sad thing that verm is being taken away, looks like we're all gonna need to do the whole grain tek (which in my opinion is better :), but fer the newbies, there might be some trouble.
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: LiquidGaia]
#313435 - 05/09/01 07:59 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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my walmart in the midwest has been out for a few months and says that they have no clue as to when the can get more. they are blaming asbestos. But i was thinking what would in be like to use sand for the in place of the verm in on top of the substrate in jars?
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magnusra
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I think the vermiculite will stay. It is a very large industry, they are probably just biding their time while this blows over. But as for perlite, here is the definition from dictionary.com
per?lite also pearl?ite (p?rlt).
n.
A natural volcanic glass similar to obsidian but having distinctive concentric cracks and a relatively high water content. In a fluffy heat-expanded form perlite is used as a lightweight aggregate, in fire-resistant insulation, and in soil for potted plants.
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magnusra
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: magnusra]
#313484 - 05/09/01 09:05 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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I completely forgot to respond to the sand thing. I'm not too sure that it would work. I think too much would fall in the spaces in the substrate. Also I think it might compact a little too much for good air exchange.
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MNmyc
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: magnusra]
#313509 - 05/09/01 09:32 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sand is good for drainage, but not good enough for areation of fungi, if you ask me.
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: MNmyc]
#313517 - 05/09/01 09:36 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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And from what I understand, the asbestos thing is isolated to the mine in montana (?).
There is apparently few places (4) that produce vermiculite. Who cares about it? just don't breathe it. it makes little scars in your lungs, that's all. Like fiberglass.
Am I ignorant?
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magnusra
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: MNmyc]
#313528 - 05/09/01 09:45 PM (23 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea it definitely isn't a big concern unless you are constantly working with the stuff (e.g. Working at the mine or at a potting soil factory where you be contstantly exposed). The asbestos they found in the consumer stuff was barely detectable and yes only from one mine. They hit a batch or the rock which contains it. And it is a highly dangerous substance when inhaled in large enough quantities. I think it is a carcinogen, but it also brings about unique respitory diseases like asbestosis, and mesothelioma. In other words it's some bad shit but you should be more concerned about getting it from old buidings then verm.
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