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Invisibleelfin
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Vermiculite Outlawed.
    #311727 - 05/07/01 10:24 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I've yet to see this mentioned anywhere on the boards which i found very surprising. Most forms Vermiculite have been outlawed in the New England Area...Apparently it contains high amounts of Asbestos which is extremely toxic. Vendors are allowed to sell there remaining stock but cannot restock it...Keep in mind all this information came from the sales dude at Home Depot and the Owner of a Local-area Gardening Company (Frank's)...both had extremely similar accounts.



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InvisibleBrownPastures
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
    #311729 - 05/07/01 10:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

whoa man that's scary ... asbestos?! cancerous shit

go fish


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Invisiblecarmex234
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: BrownPastures]
    #311738 - 05/07/01 10:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Ya its already down south. They are outlawing the finer ground vermiculite, and selling the coarser ground chunky shit in its place....i like the chunky stuff better anyways

I remember when this was all malls and concrete, shame what they have done!


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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: BrownPastures]
    #311739 - 05/07/01 10:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

had that trouble today, almost had a panic attack trying to find verm.

Got some nice potting soil mix with polymers which hold water, contains lime stone, polymers, peat moss, and some perlite.

Gonna see if it works as a casing layer, but the PF tek is history.


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InvisibleBrownPastures
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: LiquidGaia]
    #311744 - 05/07/01 10:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

hey isnt't polymers just a pretty word for styrofoam????

go fish


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OfflineKaoServitor
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: carmex234]
    #311752 - 05/07/01 10:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

aw, so that explains the big ass chunky shit i got the other day...



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: KaoServitor]
    #311763 - 05/07/01 10:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

If you go to the Schultz website you can read the whole story of the asbestos scare. I far as I know they are the only brand to be affected.

Try some other stores?

Take a trip to the Spore Lab @:
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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
    #311769 - 05/07/01 10:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Actually, this whole vermiculite/asbestos thing has been posted over and over again not only here, but on DD, ADM, and mycotopia. Thing all came about because of some contaminated verm from asbestos, somebody here had a link to the shultz site that explained the whole thing.

Home Depot, Walmart, etc. - are all in the process of pulling verm of the shelfs in New England especially. The people I've talked to in Home Depot didn't know shit, when asked if they carry vermiculte, this old geeser looked at me as if I was a ghost and proclaimed...."We don't carry it anymore, IT CAUSES CANCER!" - I just shook my head and walked away.

This whole thing will blow over in a few months IMO..........

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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: BrownPastures]
    #311835 - 05/07/01 11:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

nope polymers look like salt but can contain like 1000 times there weight in water .. good for outdoor gardening in remote places

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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
    #311838 - 05/07/01 11:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I thought I was out of luck today, too, but then I visited my reputable local nursery/garden center and found it with no problem. So, I'd suggest forgetting the national chains and just start calling up every locally-owned shop until you find some. They also tend to be much more knowledgable than the guys at Home Depot and their ilk. I'm pretty confident that you'll find it. And if you do, I suggest stocking up; there's no telling when this scare will end.

And, at the worst, there's always mail-order. I think the Shroomery mentions www.homeharvest.com as an online supplier. Good luck!

-galapagos



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: galapagos]
    #311904 - 05/08/01 12:47 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

You can order vermiculite from the SporeLab.

And it ain't Schultz!

Take a trip to the Spore Lab @:
http://www.SporeLab.com
email: getspores@sporelab.com


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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: galapagos]
    #311905 - 05/08/01 12:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

What about replacing verm with Peat? has anybody here tried that lately and if so....what results?



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: Tlaloc]
    #311910 - 05/08/01 12:57 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I use jiffy mix myself, I wonder if they are going to stop using vermiculite. I guess if this sticks then we are going to have to find a new recipe to replace the pf tek.



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: Entheonaut]
    #311942 - 05/08/01 01:34 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

here is the link to the shultz article : http://www.schultz.com/news15.htm



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: Tlaloc]
    #311950 - 05/08/01 01:44 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

peat contaminates easily, I just bought a whooooooooole shit load of verm, no for sell, I'm set for life, haha J/K there are to many ways to grow on, loss of verm is not going to shut down the shroom community...

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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: Taz]
    #312005 - 05/08/01 02:49 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

not to "rub it in," folks, but the funniest thing happened to me at Wallmart about 3 months ago.

While looking for vermiculite, they were sold out of the regular size bags. . .but had JUST ONE of these industrial sized 10 lb. bags sitting on a pallett. It was about 3 feet around, and almost as tall as me.

I told the guy I just needed "a little."

He filled a 100 gallon plastic garbage bag FULL of the shit for me. . . and then scanned the UPC of the SMALL BAG for me, 'cause I didn't take the whole thing.

So I ended up with about 10 years worth of vermiculite for $3.49 plus tax.

It just makes me grin like a happy kid when I see all the availabiltiy issues people are posting about vermiculite.

Don't get me wrong. . . I don't revel in your misfortune. . .I'm just happy that for ONCE. . . I made out like a bandit!

LOL



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
    #312042 - 05/08/01 04:33 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

they also pulled scotts brand vermiculite too at my local home depot....what sucks, is that i dont even  live in "england",
I live in California!!!!
the only shit they had was a 20lb. bag of industrial coarse shit!
i had no other choice....but now i am glad, im set for a while too!:)
i made this link clickable:
here is the link to the shultz article :
http://www.schultz.com/news15.htm



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: 40oz]
    #312048 - 05/08/01 04:59 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

ACE hardware still carries it, the schultz brand, at least in my hometown. since theyre a chain, perhaps they have it at all of their stores.



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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: oscill8]
    #312143 - 05/08/01 10:08 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

good thing i get mine in 4 cubic foot bags, about $17 usd.

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Re: Vermiculite Outlawed. [Re: elfin]
    #312159 - 05/08/01 10:30 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

trouble finding it in the New England area.... i just went to "Frank's Nursery" and bought more vermiculite than i could carry (10, yeah TEN bags). Looks like the same shit, different day. I keep hearing about this shortage, but i haven't seen it yet. in either case, i have a whole fuking lot more than i'll ever need for the rest my days. later!




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