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... Man shit.
    #3115651 - 09/09/04 07:56 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry but I had to ask... Seriously though, this has to have been done before, right? I did a search and after a couple pages didn't see anything. I would never do this myself but I have a morbid (lavatorial?) curiousity concerning it.

Has human shit ever been used in place of horse manure?

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3115704 - 09/09/04 08:13 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

This has been answered countless times. no.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: SCIOpenEyedDream]
    #3115845 - 09/09/04 08:45 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Damn :/ I tried to search. One of these days we'll see a grow log with it done.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3115966 - 09/09/04 09:13 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

It's being worked on...

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116474 - 09/09/04 10:53 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Fred, that really, really, really scares me. I don't like the idea of eating shrooms grown off of human poop... I remember the E. coli problem at Whitewater water park in atlanta a few years ago... Don't mess with human shit.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: ZeroArmy27]
    #3116550 - 09/09/04 11:07 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

You don't even know the half of the problems with working with shit... viruses, bacteria, toxins, etc. However I do know what I'm doing and it is perfectly safe to work with treated shit.

I have no intention of using any sick shit, nor would I have one person eat mushrooms off another's shit.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116566 - 09/09/04 11:09 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, you're serious? Guess that answer isn't simply "no" then. :P

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3116609 - 09/09/04 11:17 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Well... Nobody's done it yet. I said it was probably possible and a bunch of people basicaly said "do it or shut your fucking mouth". So that's why I'm going to try it.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116619 - 09/09/04 11:19 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I have faith. Don't get yourself banned before you post a growlog. :P

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3116656 - 09/09/04 11:25 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybe Shittastica would be the honorary name of the first strain to grow excellently on human buttlogs. Imagine just having to swallow a bag of spores, set up in a polymer to dissolve only in the highly basic intestinal area so the acid doesn't whack em, and then dump in a tray and put it in the incubator. Or bury it outside. Every camping trip could be a huge planting mission.

Or better make it so it can work with birds, everywhere they shit could be a new little colony.

I think I might be in a bit too creative of a mood for this post right now, sorry. I think the general consensus has been "why!!! eww", and also something related to how its so different from vegetarian livestock that it won't work so well (lack of good shroom nutes and such, bad initial pH probably need adjustment, etc). And who wants to cook their poop, or leave their poop to age, or even really collect their poop. Blah.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116680 - 09/09/04 11:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Well... Nobody's done it yet.  I said it was probably possible and a bunch of people basicaly said "do it or shut your fucking mouth".  So that's why I'm going to try it.


-FF




Thats probably because someone asks that same question at least 1 or 2 times a week and the answer is always the same.  Noone has ever nor wants to do it because its fuckin nasty and you went stickin up for the theory so thats why you got the response you did imo.  But wtfe do what you want.    :whatever:

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: atomic1]
    #3116864 - 09/10/04 12:07 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Hey, I'm not bitching... Just recalling how rude this forum often is. Just have to wait awhile now until my diet stabilizes. I'm thinking about eating some more corn and possibly some millet since that would make it through almost unchanged... Do you think that would be cheating?


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116927 - 09/10/04 12:28 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Eating shrooms grown of human shit would be disgusting. Now cow shit and worm shit on the other hand - that would be the shit!!!

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116957 - 09/10/04 12:37 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't think it would be cheating FF.  As long as it comes out of your ass its still your shit.  Cows eat grain.
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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: ShaqAttack]
    #3116973 - 09/10/04 12:42 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Eating shrooms grown of human shit would be disgusting.




no one said they have to be eaten... the question was "will they grow"
the answer is "mushies will suprise you"

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3116987 - 09/10/04 12:45 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

yes, that would be cheating. If you don't cheat though, you will shurly fail. I advise adding massive ammounts of fiber to your diet. I'm talking straight up, put some straw in a vita-mix(r) and grind it into a powder then put it in your cornbread. you may want to eat alot of saw dust too.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Shaw]
    #3117017 - 09/10/04 12:52 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Umm.... I'm not *that* into this project! I still have to stay healthy and keep my strength up. I'm eating a lot of grain based foods and cereal, rice, corn, etc. The shit should be ready in a few days.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3117151 - 09/10/04 01:28 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Dry 'em, grind 'em, cap 'em - can't taste 'em.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3117277 - 09/10/04 02:03 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Um yeah ok, so if your gonna do this you may want to find a person who eats a lot of hay or straw. There is a reason it grows on cow and horse shit and not every pile of shit out there or cubes would be covering every pile of crap on the planet.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Magash]
    #3117329 - 09/10/04 02:14 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Magash, I think that a mix of straw and human feces may be possible to work with, worm castings have been used as have other types of poo... start as you would any other spawn run and dry and crumble the poo, pastuerize it and the straw together and spawn your grain to the mix...

it's becoming quite a disgusting and intriguing idea

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #3117694 - 09/10/04 07:10 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Regardless of how disgusting the idea of this is, I can't wait to read FF's grow log if he really goes through with it.  I hope the little mushrooms grow. 

So the question is:

Will the substance from :ass:
combined with the spores from :syringe:
provide us with :mushroom2: ?

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Silven]
    #3117723 - 09/10/04 07:51 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

FF, you have to do this now. Your name could be made into eternity as the first guy to grow mushrooms off of his own shit. It would be the FFS (Fast Fred Shit) tech. You will need something to aid the myc to travel through the substrait (verm or straw is good). I also suggest a diet of birdseed and high fiber foods (no meat) for a week to make the substrate better.

Definately open the pressure cooker outsidebecause the smell of cooked shit will rank up your house. Good luck and give any of us who gave you good ideas some credit, will you?


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: MAGnum]
    #3118101 - 09/10/04 10:52 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

It's just got to be a human taboo not to mess with human shit. I can walk my dog in the park and scoop his poop, but I sure as hell don't want to clean up another person's feces. I guess moms 'n dads get used to it after having a baby...

Go for it Fred. I was just expressing my own disgust for poop. I really want to see the grow log, it's gonna be the shit.

...pun intended...

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Ayrios]
    #3118361 - 09/10/04 12:11 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

This is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. I don't know why, but for some reason human shit is 10x more disgusting than horse or cow dung.  :sick:

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: DrJonez]
    #3120042 - 09/10/04 07:48 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

FF has a MEAN sense of humour. :devil:

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120075 - 09/10/04 08:03 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i highly doubt that you would be 'the first person' to try try this, as people have been growing mushrooms for hundreds of years, but you'd probably be the first person this year.

i said don't do it, but if you are keen and willing to try for us (with pics, naturally) then, well, er..... um... er.... well, let us know how you get on. tell us your plans - gonna pasteurise it in the toilet, or in the oven?


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: shirley knott]
    #3120107 - 09/10/04 08:13 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

FF, you can start selling your own line of  :poop:.  You can call it "Fast Fred's Human Mushroom Poo".  I can see it now.  Maybe you can even be a shroomery sponsor.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: shirley knott]
    #3120109 - 09/10/04 08:14 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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i highly doubt that you would be 'the first person' to try try this, but you'd probably be the first person this year.




he would probably be the first in history to admit to it....

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120135 - 09/10/04 08:19 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

:rotfl:
please post a grow log


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120202 - 09/10/04 08:34 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

If you do post a grow log please omit the shots of you producing the substrate.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: dog]
    #3120662 - 09/10/04 10:08 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Update: I'm still working on the diet. I'm socking up on potatoes, rice, corn, and grains. I'll try to keep the pics as non-disgusting as possible. However they will feature pictures of human shit obviously, so be prepared.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120801 - 09/10/04 10:48 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Anno ... ANNO!


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120814 - 09/10/04 10:50 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Remember FF you can't grow on fresh shit it has to be aged. Horse/cow shit aged a year works best. Also nitrates and nitrites are a nono along with many other preservatives, dyes, etc; often added to people food. GL FF

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3120865 - 09/10/04 11:08 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

you need a game plan, how are you gonna do this, because i promise pooping n a jar and putting a tyvek lid on and sterilizing isnt gonna work, the texture will be all messed up and un-colonizable for the mycel.
pasteurizing isnt gonna work just cause theres too much bad bacteria and prolly no good bacteria.
maybe if you mixed 99% pasteurized straw and 1% sterilized poop it could work but then its really just growing on straw.
for this to have a firm foundation you are going to have to have your poop be the bigger percentage, but yur gonna have to dry it out a bit and mix it with somthing
straw/verm/peat/ or somthing.
I know there is scientific reasons this shouldnt work but do it anyways fred
lets give him some help and encouragment guys everybody here knows they wanna know no matter how disgusting it is.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Psychoslut]
    #3121805 - 09/11/04 10:06 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

i can't believe it ...another shitty thread about human shit

good luck FF, finaly something you can sink your teeth into...

if i were you i would set my shit outside in the sun all day to age it quicker.
and mix in some straw you can't go wrong with straw

i know we didn't get off to a good start, but i'm willing to make it up to you by helping you all i can, so long as you don't go and get shitty again :mushroom2:


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: george castanza]
    #3121848 - 09/11/04 10:29 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I'll try not to.

Update: I'm getting sick of rice...

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: george castanza]
    #3121859 - 09/11/04 10:34 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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good luck FF, finaly something you can sink your teeth into...






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    #3130871 - 09/13/04 06:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

how about an update ff?


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: george castanza]
    #3130881 - 09/13/04 06:06 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

My diet broke down... I smoked a bunch of weed and started eating real food again. This time I'm going to stick to the diet though. I still have plenty of rice.

I'll post again when I actually produce some quality shit.

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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: fastfred]
    #3131918 - 09/13/04 09:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Vegan Poo

Mr. Wobblehead says he did it, and it was colonizing well, but he never said if he got fruits, and there were no pictures.


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Re: ... Man shit. [Re: Shmoppy McGillicuddy]
    #3132038 - 09/13/04 09:53 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

man this is some fucked up stuff here. but seriously, i don't know about many people here, but i'm growing my own stash so i don't have to eat something that came out of shit. and now someone's trying to shit their own substrate? why not just skip the middle man and all the work and try reconsuming the brown submarines ya make the morning after your next trip?! <sorry kind of intoxicated now>

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