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OfflinePhred
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Muslims rule major Swedish City.
    #3114653 - 09/09/04 06:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I live in a small village on the North Coast of the Dominican Republic that is world-renowned for the world-class windsurfing and kiteboarding conditions. For many years I was a bartender (then manager) at the most popular bar in Cabarete, and had the chance to speak with hundreds of Scandinavian tourists here for the windsurfing or kiting, most of them in their twenties and thirties. Plenty of Swedes, Norwegians, Finns, and Danes to be found here, and not just in the winter either.

Later in the early morning when things would quiet down a bit at the bar, I'd sometimes get drawn into discussions with these people (man oh man, can some of them ever hold astounding quantities of alcohol!), and as is inevitable in settings like that, the conversation would sometimes to turn to one of the three supposedly "do not discuss with strangers" topics -- politics, religion, and sex.

This recent article brings home to me in full force what I had heard several times from some groups of Swedes. At the time I had more or less brushed it off as drunken exaggerations and/or expression of provincial prejudices (hell, the Swedes even diss Norwegians and Danes and Finns) but now it appears I should have given it more credence.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003131.php

Extremely interesting stuff.

pinky


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3114719 - 09/09/04 06:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Thats real scary stuff.

It time for Western Civilization to wake up and defend herself.



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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3114736 - 09/09/04 06:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like the Swedes are using rubber guns because not even Canada would let that happen.

And what Jihad Watch is doing is lumping a bunch of ethnic drug gangs with people from the Muslim world and putting them under the label 'Muslim gangs'.

I doubt these people even pray, or even believe in Islam (how many Shroomerites have been born into Christian families) as these gangs seem hedonistic, not religiously extreme.

Perhaps they should make all Muslims leave Sweden?


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3114747 - 09/09/04 06:50 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Zahid said:
Perhaps they should make all Muslims leave Sweden?


For once we agree.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: DieCommie]
    #3114751 - 09/09/04 06:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was being cynical. But now I know you a little more, DieCommie.  :sad:


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3114761 - 09/09/04 06:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Zahid said:
I was being cynical. But now I know you a little more, DieCommie.  :sad:


  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: 
Sorry, but i literally burst into laughter after i read that.....

A less rash choice would be better i guess, maybe arm the population...kill the gangs, and make the arabs/muslims who stay learn Sweedish or get out...



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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3114793 - 09/09/04 07:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

certainly interesting, but i wouldn't call the problem as severe as this article paints it to be. certainly a major problem in all of Scandinavia, as the high social standards and social welfare programs attract many immigrants, and this recent turn of events has led to a very strange racial and social make-up in the societies... definitely food for thought.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: DieCommie]
    #3114806 - 09/09/04 07:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The article mentioned various ethnic gangs.. Arabs, Kurds.. I've read other stuff about Pakistanis in Sweden..but once again it was about drug gangs.

traditionally these groups don't even get along with each other..

I doubt "muslims" are the only gangs in Sweden.

And these gangs are likely far from being religious.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3114911 - 09/09/04 07:27 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

The article made no mention of drug gangs. Only you did. It did mention arranged marriage as a Muslim tradition though.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3114997 - 09/09/04 07:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It doesn't have to mention drugs - why else do gangs form?  :smoker: :stash:

Oh wait.. you're going to suggest all these young punks want to - *shudder* establish Islamic Law in Sweden!  :rotfl:


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: DieCommie]
    #3115024 - 09/09/04 07:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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and make the arabs/muslims who stay learn Sweedish or get out...



What the fuck does this have to do with ANYTHING?

Believe me, I know what its like to be annoyed by immagrants refusing to learn the native language, I live north cuba, or south florida to the common folk, the rafters refuse to speak english.

edit: clarification on the "north cuba" comment.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3115079 - 09/09/04 07:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Zahid said:
It doesn't have to mention drugs - why else do gangs form?





Power. Their desire to impose their will on others.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3115113 - 09/09/04 08:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Wow. That was new to me. Sounds like a pretty shitty situation. So many people live in the world, and trasportation gets easier by the day. Immigration policy is a serious issue. I am sure glad the US doesn't have a legitimate immigration policy. Maybe if we continue to stick our heads in the sand on that issue it will go away. Right.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3115173 - 09/09/04 08:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Uh huh... must be cos they be Muslims..  :rolleyes:

Grow up.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3115207 - 09/09/04 08:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Zahid said:
Uh huh... must be cos they be Muslims..  :rolleyes:

Grow up.




Where did I say that.  The second time you have embellished what was actually written.

No, you grow up :ass:


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3115264 - 09/09/04 08:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You didn't have to say it - it was already in the air as you're terribly predictable. The topic at hand is about Arab, Kurd, Pakistani and so forth who are involved with street crime/gangs but thanks to the good people at Jihad Watch they're now under Muslim Watch. I can already picture some Swede-Pakistani teen reading that thinking "Hah! They're blaming it on those conformist Muslims! Man I'm too wasted to laugh."  :thumbdown:


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Zahid]
    #3115489 - 09/09/04 09:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was my understanding that Arabs and Kurds and Pakistanis are almost overwhelmingly Muslim. Do they renounce Islam when they get to Sweden?

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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3115517 - 09/09/04 09:23 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I think the point is, the asshole gang members who commit crimes in sweden (or wherever) as about as much muslim as the assholes who bomb abortion clinics are christian. They might label themselves that, but they sure as hell don't follow the principles laid down by their faith. Though to be fair, both muslim and christian religions have a lot of intolerance, bigotry and violence involved in them. Leviticus, I'm thinking of you bro.


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: Phred]
    #3115541 - 09/09/04 09:29 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

See, some people are born into Muslim families just as people are born into Christian families. Frankly, one's background should mean nothing, unless that background is integral to one's thoughts and beliefs. Gang, street, and drug involvement comes a long way from religion being one's epicenter of belief. It's like anyone else who is involved with gangs - it has nothing to do with the religion of one's parents.

Only people who are gullible and stupid would believe these gangs are another bidding of Islamic fundamentalism. Islamic fundamentalism would have these punks beheaded publically.

Damn Muslims.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Muslims rule major Swedish City. [Re: unbeliever]
    #3115555 - 09/09/04 09:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No, this cannot even be compared to real Islamic fundamentalism. This can be compared to any other criminal gang of youths who obviously don't practice the religion of their parents.


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