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Bush must have money trees
    #3110787 - 09/08/04 10:20 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Ok, lets look at this

Lower tax revenues (Bush's tax cuts) and increased spending (4 billion dollar budget surplus in Clinton's last year to a current 4 billion (liberal estimate, its closer to 5 billion if you factor in social security) dollar budget deficeit)

How the fuck are we going to pay for this?


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3110815 - 09/08/04 10:26 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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How the fuck are we going to pay for this?



More tax cuts, silly.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3110824 - 09/08/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Cut social services.  :satansmoking:

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: DieCommie]
    #3110837 - 09/08/04 10:29 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
Cut social services.  :satansmoking:



Which neither major party candidate is willing to do.  Vote Libertarian.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3111088 - 09/08/04 11:06 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry Skikid, but in fact the federal government's tax revenues have increased. That's the reason why the projected deficit for this year has already been revised downwards twice since the first estimate.

However, there is no denying that it would be nice to see government spending cut back as well.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Phred]
    #3111576 - 09/09/04 12:26 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

we also have a 7.3 TRILLON dollar national debt. how will we pay that?
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Phred]
    #3111657 - 09/09/04 12:43 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Pinky, I request that you back up your claim that tax revenues have increased.

I am looking for information that backs my claim that tax revenue has decreased, and I hope I can find it, but I'm not the greatest info sleuth, I must admit.

My claims of lower tax revenue was from Bush's tax cuts are logical conjecture, but so is your claim that lowered taxes will increase taxable revenue due to increased business. Both are conjecture without proof, so please, I ask you, help shed some quantifiable light on this subject.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3111758 - 09/09/04 01:05 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

OK, so I'm tired of GOOGLE searching, its rediculously hard to find info when you need it.....

So.....I'm asking someone, anyone find the comparison between 2002 tax revenue and 2003 tax revenue..

I, and this thread, would surely appreciate and benefit from it.

Thank you so very much.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3111947 - 09/09/04 01:43 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

This might be a good place to start... here


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Rono]
    #3112005 - 09/09/04 01:53 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks man, you're the man.

Now I just have to wade through this crap, and considering I'm about to head to bed, it will wait until tomorrow


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3112273 - 09/09/04 03:29 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Here some info that goes back a ways and is broken down quartily.
http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/nipa/T3t2l3q

I think that might be what your looking for.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3112297 - 09/09/04 03:36 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

And by the way, I don't think tax cuts ever cause defecits, just uncontrolled spending.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3112342 - 09/09/04 04:02 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

easy, you are going to pay for it,

with money that isn't worth what it's supposed to be worth in the first place.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3112933 - 09/09/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry, I won't be able to back up my claims right now without spending time I don't have looking for the evidence...but I'm going to throw this out there anyway in the hopes that some of you will have heard about this.

There are sectors in our society (namely the very rich) who are pursuing this goal of purposely bankrupting the United States with the intent of eliminating all (or many) of our social services (and probably privatizing the remaining services).

Bill Moyers gave a speach for a convention on inequality where he laid out the (assumed) facts about this.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3112973 - 09/09/04 10:29 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Here's a bit from Bill Moyers' speach from the 'Inequality Matters Forum' NYU June 3, 2004...

"These deficits have been part of their strategy. Some of you will remember that Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan tried to warn us 20 years ago, when he predicted that President Ronald Reagan's real strategy was to force the government to cut domestic social programs by fostering federal deficits of historic dimensions. Reagan's own budget director, David Stockman, admitted as such. Now the leading rightwing political strategist, Grover Norquist, says the goal is to "starve the beast" -- with trillions of dollars in deficits resulting from trillions of dollars in tax cuts, until the United States Government is so anemic and anorexic it can be drowned in the bathtub.

There's no question about it: The corporate conservatives and their allies in the political and religious right are achieving a vast transformation of American life that only they understand because they are its advocates, its architects, and its beneficiaries. In creating the greatest economic inequality in the advanced world, they have saddled our nation, our states, and our cities and counties with structural deficits that will last until our children's children are ready for retirement, and they are systematically stripping government of all its functions except rewarding the rich and waging war."


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: hound]
    #3114147 - 09/09/04 02:40 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hound,

I'm not sure how to interpret the site you gave, but if it is what it says it is, it looks like tax revenue has decreased....

2000 01 975.4
2000 02 987.4
2000 03 1011.7
2000 04 1021.7
2001 01 1047.3
2001 02 1045.7
2001 03 881.0
2001 04 1004.1
2002 01 846.9
2002 02 835.6
2002 03 824.4
2002 04 817.7
2003 01 809.6
2003 02 811.6
2003 03 709.2
2003 04 772.5
2004 01 768.3
2004 02 779.7


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: kaiowas]
    #3114164 - 09/09/04 02:45 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

kaiowas said:
easy, you are going to pay for it,

with money that isn't worth what it's supposed to be worth in the first place.


Wait, yup there's the hammer in your hand, oh wait, there's a hit, yup right on the nail's head.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Phred]
    #3114167 - 09/09/04 02:47 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Pinky,

Although I still have not found conclusive evidence either way of the increase or decrease in tax revenue, the fact of the matter is, when clinton left office, we had a budget SURPLUS, now with the so called "conservatives" (hahahahah) in office, we have a budget DEFICET.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3114737 - 09/09/04 04:48 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: afoaf]
    #3114906 - 09/09/04 05:26 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

AHAHAHAHA, that was the best impersonation of the RNC I've heard.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3114920 - 09/09/04 05:28 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Again, I ask, how can Bush claim to be conservative while he is so fiscally irresponsible?

Tax cuts are a sham to appease his "base".


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3114942 - 09/09/04 05:33 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

He also left us with a recession that started in the third quarter of 2000.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3114969 - 09/09/04 05:38 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Also, look at the numbers again. 4th Qtr 2001 was clearly abberrant but there was obviously a severe downward trend even before the Bush cuts took effect, from over 1000 to less than 900 in a quarter. And the revenues are now on an upward trend.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3114998 - 09/09/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

If you can blame Clinton for the Dot com bust, I can blame Bush for 9/11......


While I agree, Clinton should have reigned in the venture capitalist, he didn't have the foresight, much like Bush didn't have the foresight to reign in the terrorist, after all he was "tired of swatting flies"......


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3115037 - 09/09/04 05:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

You could but you'd be wrong. And I don't blame Clinton for the dot com bust. That was strictly peoples greed-head reactions to a few wild success stories and then their bidding up stock prices of companies that had P/E ratios of infinity and NO revenue stream. The dot com nonsense did not cause the recession. I do blame Clinton for not watching the fraudulent accounting practices of more than a few huge companies, but not that much. I think the SEC should be pretty autonomous. It is in their interest to police their own ship.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3115080 - 09/09/04 05:59 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I'd be wrong about what?


Quote:

I do blame Clinton for not watching the fraudulent accounting practices of more than a few huge companies, but not that much.


Oh, companies like Enron, who's CEO was Bush's single largest individual donor? But yes, I agree, Clinton could have done more to reign them in as well, but until it became apparent of their accounting practices (ie: magically disapperaing pension plans) there was little cause for concern.

But please, I ask, how do we solve the defecit problem we are facing?


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3115130 - 09/09/04 06:11 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

You'ld be wrong to blame Bush for 9/11. The current deficit, though absolutely larger than the one in the early nineties, is a smaller percentage of Gross Domestic Product than that one. And we got out of that. As the economy continues to improve tax revenue will go up. It always does. And then I would like to cut entitlements as much as possible. I'm a little sick of bailing people out who live in flood zones without flood insurance, tornado alley without tornado insurance, and hurricane zones without hurricane insurance. I mean, fucking come on already. Medicaid and soc sec are a fucking horrorshow. You have the right to fuck up all you want. That does not imply that I have an obligation to bail you out


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3115645 - 09/09/04 07:55 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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You'ld be wrong to blame Bush for 9/11.


Just like you'd be wrong to blame the accounting frauds on Clinton, which you claimed was the cause of the recession.

As for cutting handouts, I'm still undecided upon this issue, but it seems Bush doesn't plan on it, in fact, in his convention speech, he talked about setting up "trade zones" to encourage economic growth. Within the zones, companies would recieve "incentives" to grow. I don't know the extent of these "incentives" i'm just telling what I heard, straight from the horses mouth.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3115664 - 09/09/04 08:01 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say that caused the recession, I just said he might maybe have been looking after these crooks a little better. It didn't cost me any money though. Don't put words in my mouth please, the posts are there and I almost never edit them.


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3115716 - 09/09/04 08:16 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Skikid16 asks:

But please, I ask, how do we solve the defecit problem we are facing?

By cutting taxes further and even more importantly by axing government spending. The thing is, as so many other have pointed out here, both Democrats and Republicans find it almost impossible to cut government spending. Once a government program is put in place, it might as well be there forever. Even reducing the budget for a particular program (hell, even refusing to increase it a bit from year to year) provokes howls of outrage.

I think there is a slender possibility that Bush will give it a try in his second term. Hell, he's already shown he doesn't give a damn about howls of outrage, and he can't run for a third term, so he might just get out the ole chainsaw and start hacking away.

Unfortunately, he'd have to do one fuck of a lot of hacking to offset even a fraction of the damage he did with his medicare bill. And he may do no hacking at all. He certainly hasn't done any at all in his first term.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Phred]
    #3115742 - 09/09/04 08:22 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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pinksharkmark said:

Once a government program is put in place, it might as well be there forever.




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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3115866 - 09/09/04 08:49 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Don't put words in my mouth please,


I'm sorry, I appologize. Sometimes, its hard when you have the one post you are working with, the above posts are taken out of context.....


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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Phred]
    #3115899 - 09/09/04 08:57 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Pinky,

I agree with cutting gubment spending, cutting taxes, yeah i know, its just the libertarian in you..... I'm still uncertain how I feel about, but in all honesty, I haven't been robbed all that much....YET, lets see my attititude in a couple years. 

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3117438 - 09/10/04 02:44 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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Hound,

I'm not sure how to interpret the site you gave, but if it is what it says it is, it looks like tax revenue has decreased....





That is the way I read it also.

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Re: Bush must have money trees [Re: Skikid16]
    #3126931 - 09/12/04 07:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Come on guys, where are all you bush supporters? How can you still justify voting for Bush when he's fucked our budget with his "conservative" presidency?

We are all fucked if this budget problem isn't solved.


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