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Slow colonization of birdseed allowing too much time for...
    #3107604 - 09/08/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Could the slow colonization of birdseed allow too much time for contaminants to take hold?

I'm using a BRF, flax seed, vermiculite and finch seed substrate ("Hawk Magic) in 36 half-pints. They've been properly pressure cooked and due to my low incubation temps (72-75F) they're colonizing very slowly. After 10 days, only a third have growth and only at the bottoms of the jars. Out of paranoia, these are single-innoculated jars, 1cc B+ down the center. Traditional PF cakes have colonized much quicker for me in the past. Is the slower colonization just the way it is with bird seed?

I don't have room for a tub-in-tub unfortunately. I'm considering a small ice cooler made of styrofoam (for flame retardency) and a light as heat source (with jars of course covered). If I DON'T decide to go that route, will my jars be all right at this slow rate? I'm scared I'm allowing too much time for disaster to strike. Also, I would remove the tape but my jars are under the bathroom sink. It's the warmest place in the house :/ My bathroom is pretty clean but I just don't know... Anywhere else would be 70-72F. Opinions?


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Re: Slow colonization of birdseed allowing too much time for... [Re: Ayrios]
    #3107644 - 09/08/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard that WBS does colinizes slower due to its grain size. I have had bad luck with WBS not like RYE much better success. If you have an appropiate filter than I would take off the tape and get some air exchange.

But IMO it seams like you know what your problems are and only you can decide what to do about it. Good luck and I hope you see some progress.


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Re: Slow colonization of birdseed allowing too much time for... [Re: rezzan1]
    #3107658 - 09/08/04 12:46 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

how do you not have room for a tub in tub? it cant be much more space consuming to set up a few rubbermaid tubs than it can for a syrofoam cooler. the volume needed to house that many jars is the same no matter what you use. i tend to think using a light bulb as a heat source would be less effective, more space and power consuming and more dangerous.


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    #3107709 - 09/08/04 01:06 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks for the input to both of you.

As for the space issue, I still live with my parents and considering I'm 20, I try to be as courteous as possible about not taking over the house with my shit to maintain a semi-low profile :P With tub-and-tub, the size is just too large to fit under my bathroom cabinet. I'd barely be able to squeeze a styrofoam cooler in there.


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    #3107977 - 09/08/04 02:33 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Hmm, I'm going to see if I can raise the ambient temperatures by a few degrees by having a heating pad under the cabinet (not directly on the jar boxes). I know it's a fire hazard but my cats have always loved their heating pads in the winter - no problems :P After showering my towels will always be nice and warm :P


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Re: Slow colonization of birdseed allowing too much time for [Re: Ayrios]
    #3108053 - 09/08/04 02:52 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

if you use a heating pad make sure it's on the low setting and place something
like a board under it


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