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Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season"
    #3106364 - 09/08/04 01:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

We've had perhaps 10-15 threads about Psilocybe weilii in the last WEEK. This is getting to be a real excess and not everyone on the boards comes here to hear about this mushroom.

So here's a new temporary rule: If you have anything to say about P. weilii, post it here. Anything is acceptable(within reason): questions, comments, pictures... It's all fair game.

I'll start you guys off by giving you some info that I've typed up on weilii:
A post on how to tell the difference between weilii and their most common look alike: Psathyrella velutina

Thought I had more, but thats it for right now.

Let the posting begin...


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3106478 - 09/08/04 01:41 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

sweet! RAIN RAIN today all OVER atlanta... and guess what... 2 more days of rain... wed/thursday should be prime


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3106831 - 09/08/04 03:23 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Lets see a semis and cyan sticky for all of us PNWers. Give it a month or so though.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3107248 - 09/08/04 07:37 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

can someone tell me how far west of atlanta has this mushroom been found?


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: MESCALATO]
    #3107778 - 09/08/04 01:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I seem to remember MoeHoward finding them on the GA/TN border. They seem to like they foothill/mountainous areas.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3108168 - 09/08/04 03:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

anyone going out today?


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: dwarves475]
    #3108203 - 09/08/04 03:24 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'd wait a couple more days before going out.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3108273 - 09/08/04 03:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Why wait? Go out now and go out later. =)

Me and my GF might be travelling down this weekend. We have a school break in Oct. but if I wait til then I may be SOL until next year. If we go now and come up dry, we can go back later. =)


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: YidakiMan]
    #3108407 - 09/08/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

That'll work, usually weilii take time to come up after a good rain though. After about 2 days of good rain theyll keep growing bigger until 4-5 days after.

Heres some tips for finding weilii:

The lawn variety of weilii are small, this applies to golf courses. They're hard to spot unless you come right up on them, trust me. Honestly, unless of course theyre in huge BULKING clusters which are pretty obvious. Theres no way I would be able to distinguish a weilii from a leaf if I were driving by in a car, and im very sure many novice hunters have went out looking for huge amanita like mushrooms poking out of lawns. The lawn variety stays pretty small, and unless you get out and walk very closely looking deep into the grass, you're likely not to find any.

I started looking closely at the bermuda when I noticed 1 abnormally big weilii a while back, I was astonished and got out of a friends car and walked over to it. Well to my amazement, upon closer inspection that one big very visable weilii was a father to COUNTLESS ample 3-4 inch weilii's BEAUTIFUL SPECIMENS who were FULLY mature at a MUCH smaller 3 inches as opposed to the 5-6 inch MAMMONTH inch big ass one.

Ever since then id always had great success with finding weilii. The weilii are hiders, they dont always like to come poking WAY EXTREMELY NOTICEABLE from lawns, but of course sometimes they do as ive seen. But the majority of them are not so noticable, it takes a close eye to spot them under that bermuda grass and you have to be walking pretty DAMN near it slowly to really have a good chance at spoting them, and when you do spot those fuckers, its not uncommon to find a cluster of 20. Now just step back further away and notice how well they hide, it's camoflague, weilii are hiders and when they do come up theyre usually looking surprisingly like leaves and laying low to the grass height, not going any further than the height of the grass USUALLY but there are of course big exceptions occasionally. I'm not sure what causes these huge weilii to suddenly grow way more than necessary and why other times they stay very low and hidden, going ONLY to the height of the grass at full maturity or more commonly it seems below the height of the grass, hidden...

So the moral of the story is you have to get close and personal with the bermuda, sometimes that bermuda might look shallow but in reality its much taller than you think and very capable of hiding many, many 4 inch weilii.

I don't claim to know it all, but I do know that weilii HIDE and most people will not see them when they hunt for them. This is probably whats kept weilii underwraps as far as awareness in the public, partly.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3108423 - 09/08/04 04:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

By the way, I've spotted 2 species that look almost identicle to weilii in all regards except the gills are a pale whitish. If I had never spotted weilii before and knew their smell, I would definitely think this was a weilii.

So be careful, weilii have some very close brothers and sisters. I've also spotted a new species that is also very weilii-esque except skinny and tall. It is also active.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3108858 - 09/08/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

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By the way, I've spotted 2 species that look almost identicle to weilii in all regards except the gills are a pale whitish. If I had never spotted weilii before and knew their smell, I would definitely think this was a weilii.





Weilii do have white gills up untill maturity. If it bruses blue and smells like a weilii, it could be a weilii.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3108886 - 09/08/04 06:03 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Doesen't bruise blue. Theyre also fully matured.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3109767 - 09/08/04 08:52 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So weilii do not buise blue? Me and a friend went weilii hunting for 6 hours today but didnt find anything:(. We went to semi new neighborhoods with bermuda grass and golf courses with bermuda but no luck. Did I come out to early? Is tomorrow and friday the better days to look?

Actually would anyone be willing to go with me? I just know Ill learn so much more if I go with someone experienced. And you can keep the total find. I just want to go for the learning experience.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3109777 - 09/08/04 08:54 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

anyone ever had a weilli spot raped by friends, i went to my spot today and saw an old buddy i took there once last season....i know i cant really lay claim to a peice of property that doesnt belong to me....but it still seems dick...so i came back almost empty handed..i got 5 weilii to show for it....im going out friday...hopefully the weilii gods will shine on me a tad bit.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3109787 - 09/08/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i'm thinking of takin a trip down to atlanta soon i live 70 miles north of there to check out some parks and public land. i will probally be traveling on i-75 if it's not out of line to ask you guys what are some good parks and other public lands to check out near i-75. i'm not real familar with the area down there and i don't want to get lost or turned around if you can help i would really appreciate it thanks.


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3109931 - 09/08/04 09:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good words my man Rancid! You have never let me wrong, and I'm gonna have to say to everyone that this guy seems to definitly know what he is talking about... I never found my first weilii until I observed the way he looks for the weilii. He walks VERY slow and takes his time, observing the grass closely, while brushing the bermuda grass with his feet. And even after hours of looking with no luck, he runs into patches upon patches of this magical fruit. All I have to say, is take this valuable advice, and you will have wonderous results.

I took his advise and found around 85 weilli today near my home today in Canton, GA!
Thats all folks,
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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: ShroomerJon]
    #3109979 - 09/08/04 09:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The wet grass have been making heavy footprints in my patch when I walk through it.

How much is this gonna make it suffer?

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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3110151 - 09/08/04 10:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

do weilii continuously come back to a spot year after year? how many years until a spot no longer produces? do they come up in very near locations, or will they scatter from one end of a lawn tot he other, no longer ever producing from previous spots, a slash and burn biofeed technique?




there is deffinatly a booming energy here in Atlanta, and so much construction, they feed from the red soil, and genereal disruption of the natural habitat... I looked today, but found no weilii, but many mushrooms in full fruit... I don't think it is goona rain again but it will be cloudy the next few days, so lets hope the water we got will grow alot!


The info about 'not being able to spot them without walking and looking very closly'.... I would say that where I live the lawns are normally cut very low and often(this is how bermuda is supposed to be maintained.., even a 2" mushroom I could spot on most bermuda... fescue is imposible to search by car because most people keep it longer...


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: Gumby]
    #3111845 - 09/09/04 03:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Oh shit, I just saw this picture of lizardkings.



I?ve been finding these but passing them off as an inactive, close species to weilii because of the white gills. I didn?t know they retain their white gills to such a big stage of growth. Damn, I?ve missed so many but I know where they all are, gonna go back and pick em

They?re about 5-6 inches tall, thats why I thought they were fully matured, and that they should have brown gills by then, but I guess I was wrong.

Weilii take on so many damn forms, it?s amazing.

By the way shroomerjon, see how much different weilii can look compared to those ones we found on the golf course?


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Re: Psilocybe weilii : The offical "Fall 2004 Season" post [Re: I2ancid]
    #3112629 - 09/09/04 09:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah then look at them here.
I did a google search for weilii pics and got this.


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