Home | Community | Message Board


Mushrooms.com
Please support our sponsors.

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Ethnobotanical Garden

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: Papaver Somniferum

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
About Poppies and opium
    #3104035 - 09/07/04 05:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I just registered on the forum and searched and i cant find the anwser . I cannot find this anwser in poppies.org or erowid .

Im going to grow some indoor PERSIAN WHITE soon , next summer , ill probaly grow some outdoor too .

How many "raw opium" each persian white give?
How many "pure opium" give raw opium after cocking?

Now lets say i cock the raw opium and get pure opium , how many hit i can get with an half of a gram or x quantities ???


2 simple question i realy need to know but i cant find any anwser .


Edited by opium567 (09/07/04 05:58 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblefunkymonk
Get's down, withthe get-down.
 User Gallery

Registered: 11/29/02
Posts: 8,160
Loc: saskatchewan
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3104062 - 09/07/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

opium567 said:
Now lets say i cock the raw opium


:lol:



there are alot of variables. so it's kind of hard to say how much raw opium.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleHarveyWalbanger
Demiurge
Male

Registered: 06/24/02
Posts: 3,070
Loc: 8b
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3104074 - 09/07/04 06:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

...how good of a gardner are you?


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: funkymonk]
    #3104091 - 09/07/04 06:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Well dude , if you can't say how many raw opium ill get from the poopies tell me the ratio of raw opium to pure opium .


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3104114 - 09/07/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

HarveyWalbanger ,

Im a newbie at this . I understand its about how good ill be but i want to know , at the best and on an average , how many raw opium give each persian white ....


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineneuro
Phytophiliac
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/11/99
Posts: 6,617
Loc: Rigel 7
Last seen: 3 months, 24 days
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3104747 - 09/07/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You probably won't get them to grow indoors. And the amount of raw opium per pod is very small, and it will take many many many plants to get enough raw opium to make more purified opium for smoke.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: neuro]
    #3104861 - 09/07/04 08:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Someone in an other forum said the ratio of raw to purified is 20% .

THe thing im tryn to figure out is how many i should plant . When you say many many many , you mean what? 50 ? 100 ? 1000?



It look like nobody around is able to say :
1 pod of persian white = x mg average of raw

If i know how many raw opium a pod in average give , i got all my anwser .
The last thing i would like to know is : how many in mg of pure opium you need to get hight .


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineDrW0mbat
cleansed

Registered: 05/04/04
Posts: 23
Loc: texas
Last seen: 12 years, 1 month
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: neuro]
    #3104865 - 09/07/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You have to score the pod, and take the sap, then cook he sap to make the smoke.


--------------------
Im 82% addicted to crack how about you?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: neuro]
    #3104940 - 09/07/04 08:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

An other guy said :
"1 hundred or so. One hundred of these pretty little fellas will more than likely not even yield enough "gear" to get high more than say... 10 times or so"

Who confirm this?


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3105049 - 09/07/04 08:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

An other one said:

"id say that growing poppies are a waste of time unless u have at least 1000 of them growing and this would still only be enough for a small supply.
The easiest way is to buy dried p.somniferum poppies which are in any local dried flower shop, then do the usual extraction, this yields about 3gram per 20 heads. Morphine content can vary from 1-14% usually about 5-7%"


3 gram for 20 heads????
This mean 0.60g of pure opium from what said the first guy (20%) .

And this mean 0.18mg of morphine for 20 heads at 6% .


Now wich one say the truth and how many danm pure opium in mg opiate users usely do when they smoke it.... ???


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineneuro
Phytophiliac
 User Gallery

Registered: 08/11/99
Posts: 6,617
Loc: Rigel 7
Last seen: 3 months, 24 days
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3105077 - 09/07/04 08:56 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

You could say everything you'd like in one post, that'd be less pretentious.

With all plants, mileage will vary, nobody can tell you how many plants you'll need to get any amount of opium. You will need well over one hundred plants for just 4 sessions of purified smokable opium. And I will bet my hat you won't get them to grow indoors.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: neuro]
    #3105125 - 09/07/04 09:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

"You could say everything you'd like in one post, that'd be less pretentious."
:thumbup:



Nobody say the danm same thing .  I guess ill figure out myself soon enought .


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAneglakya
mephiticconjurator

Registered: 03/17/02
Posts: 4,461
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3105398 - 09/07/04 10:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Be nice neuro he's new and maybe doesn't understand forum etiquite.

The fact is , no one can tell you because we dont know the complete specs and origin of your seed. You would have to find out based on experimentation. Grow ten plants of that strain and find the average yeild and do some basic math.. It is likely going to take you a lot of plants to get a lot of smokable material. I personally would say your better off making tea. but that doesn't mean you still cant milk. Just grow them, as many as you can.. plant 1000 seeds.. you may end up with 100 plants.. see how that goes, and report back to us .


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlineopium567
Stranger
Registered: 09/07/04
Posts: 8
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: Aneglakya]
    #3105587 - 09/07/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ill give it a try soon , indoor . I dont think it take a genuis to grow some flower in a house .

Ill try that stuff and if its worth it , im gonna make a 1km2 in some years .haha  :grin:


thanks for the awnser all


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineAneglakya
mephiticconjurator

Registered: 03/17/02
Posts: 4,461
Last seen: 6 years, 9 months
Re: About Poppies and opium [Re: opium567]
    #3105945 - 09/07/04 11:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

you will be surpised. Its harder to grow them indoors. and the yeild sucks.


--------------------


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop for: Papaver Somniferum

Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> The Ethnobotanical Garden

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Poppies? Opium? Spiffy 1,038 0 06/23/03 09:51 PM
by A0999
* poppy opium content ruined? gogrowgo123 1,275 2 06/25/06 11:47 PM
by mrjim202000
* Raw opium
( 1 2 all )
whatever123 9,605 31 03/14/06 06:48 PM
by whatever123
* poppy pods *DELETED*
( 1 2 all )
smokedout420 4,327 37 01/28/08 09:39 AM
by royer
* Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium
( 1 2 3 4 ... 32 33 )
AsanteA 225,692 646 04/27/14 05:28 PM
by 4ku2sh0
* So I bought some poppy seeds at the grocery store World Spirit 2,136 8 12/29/01 03:29 PM
by World Spirit
* Poppies?
( 1 2 all )
Kodama 2,675 22 11/06/03 03:34 PM
by KentuckyPWRLFTR
* Poppy season! Randolph_Carter 929 3 03/11/02 04:19 PM
by Pinhead

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Magash, karode13, naum, Mostly_Harmless
2,494 topic views. 0 members, 22 guests and 5 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Kraken Kratom
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2017 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.057 seconds spending 0.006 seconds on 14 queries.