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Good, bad, or ugly?
    #3103914 - 09/07/04 05:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Looks like colorado may be trying to buck the conventional electoral college system. If passed, the state's electoral college votes would no longer be winner take all, but passed out according to the proportion of votes received, and the initiative would be effective immediately, which means this Presidential Election......

I'm not sure how I feel on this, what do you think


DENVER (AP) - A plan to scrap the winner-take-all system of allocating electoral votes in Colorado is heading to the ballot in November.

If passed, Amendment 36 would make Colorado the first state to allocate electoral votes proportionately according to the popular vote, rather than giving a winner all of the state's electoral votes.

Secretary of State Donetta Davidson said Friday that supporters have gathered enough signatures to put the measure on the November ballot.

If the proposal had been in place four years ago, Democrat Al Gore would have earned enough electoral votes to go to the White House.

Katy Atkinson, a spokeswoman for the opposing Coloradans Against a Really Stupid Idea, promised to challenge the measure if it passes and it is applied in this year's presidential race.

The proposal's backers want it to take effect immediately, before Colorado's electoral votes are cast in December.

"They are ripe for a court challenge on this," Atkinson said. "If this is a close race like the one four years ago, we could be thrown into a situation where we are the Florida of 2004. We'd be the laughing stock of the country. All those Florida jokes would be applied to Colorado."

State Sen. Ron Tupa, D-Boulder, tried unsuccessfully in 2001 to change Colorado's electoral system. He said the new ballot initiative is a good idea.

"It will give voters the unique opportunity to reform an outdated electoral system that disenfranchises hundreds of thousands of Colorado voters," he said.


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: Skikid16]
    #3104006 - 09/07/04 05:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

allocating votes according to how people voted? why thats proposterous!?


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: Tao]
    #3104150 - 09/07/04 06:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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allocating votes according to how people voted? why thats proposterous!?




Why do all you people forget America is a federation of States, not people. Its just fine the way we have it now.


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: Skikid16]
    #3104208 - 09/07/04 06:25 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

is this a liberal or neocon conspiracy?


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: afoaf]
    #3104232 - 09/07/04 06:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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is this a liberal or neocon conspiracy?



It's oxygen depravation from the altitude.

Maine, and I think Washington? go their own way on this also.


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3104373 - 09/07/04 06:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

meaning, they already have this rule on the books in those states?


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: afoaf]
    #3104410 - 09/07/04 07:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Washington and Maine do.


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: afoaf]
    #3104412 - 09/07/04 07:03 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well I'm not sure on the specifics, but i clearly remember looking at the electoral votes map of all the elections in text books and quite a few had their votes separated in states.


Also anyone know what was up with one member of the electoral college for D.C. opted out to not vote in the last election(which it was going for gore). I never under stood what happened. Can anyone enlighten me?


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Re: Good, bad, or ugly? [Re: afoaf]
    #3104540 - 09/07/04 07:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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meaning, they already have this rule on the books in those states?


Just looked it up.

Whichever party slate wins the most popular votes in the State becomes that State's Electors-so that, in effect, whichever presidential ticket gets the most popular votes in a State wins all the Electors of that State. [The two exceptions to this are Maine and Nebraska where two Electors are chosen by statewide popular vote and the remainder by the popular vote within each Congressional district].

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