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full or empty stomach?
    #310116 - 05/05/01 08:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

what in youur opinion is best.
eating shrooms with a full stomach or an empty one?

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #310290 - 05/06/01 04:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

empty.
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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #310291 - 05/06/01 04:02 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

empty.
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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #310338 - 05/06/01 06:24 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Empty from what I hear, but last time I ate some "gormet" shrooms, I got very very hungry and finding something to eat became a part of the trip...which was fun.:)

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #310492 - 05/06/01 01:42 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I prefer them on a small meal. The mushrooms often make my stomach uncomfortable, plus I can taste a nasty mushroomy flavor all during the trip. I find that a small meal alleviates most of this, and keeps me from being hungry.



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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #310572 - 05/06/01 03:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Empty stomach is the way to go.



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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #310665 - 05/06/01 05:46 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

It all depends on the person, if you have a strong stomach go with empty, it will hit you sooner and harder, myself i usually eat them with a burger so i get some food in my stomach with the shrooms, i have a sensitive stomach, but it will take a little longer for you to feel the effects, but i would suggest eating a small meal 30-60 minutes before the trip and using the mushroom tea tech. and mixing in some hot chocolate powder, otherwise it will taste like wet cardboard.




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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: OuterSpace]
    #312386 - 05/08/01 04:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

proper nutrition is critical for brain cognition. the more connections your brain is making between nerves and synapses, recalling memories, relating things, computing visual, aural, and tactile input, etc... the more interesting trip you will have. proper nutrition is also necessary to provide precursors for the biosynthesis of neurotransmitters, the molecules that mediate nerve impulses.
personally, i would suggest eating a light meal an hour or two before you ingest mushrooms. try a couple pieces of fruit, a good multivitamin, and a protein shake made with milk, my favorite is designer protein natural flavor.

it really depends on how your stomach reacts to mushrooms, as they can cause nausea. eating an hour or more could decrease nausea.


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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: gray1]
    #312613 - 05/08/01 09:04 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

exactly

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: gray1]
    #312620 - 05/08/01 09:21 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

you don't see a decline in brain function if you don't eat for 12 hours, takes alot longer than that. Sounded good though.

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: hunterthompson]
    #312958 - 05/09/01 09:49 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

as a biochemist and someone who is interested in brain and body nutrition, i would tend to disagree with you. although brain function may not be negatively affected until 12 or more hours from last food consumption ( i don't know upon what basis you said this, but currently don't have any scientific studies at my fingertips to prove otherwwise so i'll let it go), why wouldn't you want your brain to be working at the optimal levels at all times, especially when entering into a hallucinatory trip? apart from neurotransmitter levels, oxygen flow to the brain and energy/ATP levels can be increased by eating and subsequent metabolism of nutrients. the human brain and body need energy to function properly, not eating for twelve hours will certainly lower energy levels and require the body to burn fats and muscle for energy.
why would you want that to happen?

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: gray1]
    #313202 - 05/09/01 04:28 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I was refering to your comment about how neurotransmiters need to be made. I was just watching somehting about the eco-challange and how the racers don't show decreased brain-funtion till 2 or 3 days later. I just don't like to eat before the journey. Mushrooms hit you quicker and harder on an empty stomach.



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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: hunterthompson]
    #313221 - 05/09/01 04:54 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

from what i have learned, a mushroom trip is like getting drunk in a way. you get way drunker if you drink on an empty stomach, right? right. same with shroomies. now the fall back...true, eating mushrooms on an empty stomach does increase the chances that a tummy ache will occur (at least for me), but sometimes you just have to suck it up and deal with it. i personally dose by grinding up however much i plan on eating and putting it in a cup of orange juice. i then like to eat a few squares of a chocolate bar. i dunno. it has just become a ritual like thing for me. well, hope this helps.
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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: gray1]
    #313479 - 05/09/01 11:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

But what about eating a good, healthy meal 6 hours prior. That way you kill two birds with one stone. Plus, shouldn't you already be eating healthy, all the time?

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: Crasher]
    #313578 - 05/10/01 12:27 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

well since i (currently) only do acid i dont have to worry about problems with eating and nausea... ;-) i just eat when im hungry otherwise i get grumpy

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Re: full or empty stomach? [Re: morlahere]
    #316686 - 05/14/01 04:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the replies everyone.
the reason i asked is because i just recently introduced a friend of mine to this... um thing?
he really loved the experience and is now going to search for these beasts.
we had a really good time and he now is understanding of my passion for them. however.....i always get a really bloated stomach and did want to make him feel as comfortable as possible for his first experience.
for me most times it feels as though i have a tennis ball stuck in my stomach and the need to fart or pass wind is ever present.
we went for a walk in the bush some time after eating them and i was gassing out the rear end REAL big time.
this is what i feel i need to do from now on to reach my comfort zone with the shrooms (although the gagging feeling when initially eating them is still there) walikng seems to get the gasses flowing and farting them out is a pleasure (no i'm not a homo')
when i know i'm going to shroom even though they're not in front of me i still get unsettled in the gut just thinking about them.
it's coming on mushy season down here and if i get a shit load (i'll be trying) i will attempt to do the extraction with the ice water thing (has anyone successfully done this?). the thought of being able to take it in a concentrated form really appeals to me even though i still think the nauseous feeling will still be there.
thanks once again.




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