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OfflineScolecite
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Are mushrooms bad to do too often?
    #3098162 - 09/06/04 09:39 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I was reading some Terence McKenna about the Gaian mind, and how we all connect to in on shrooms. I agree with him very much, but are we to use shrooms to achive this every time, or are we supposed to learn it without the aid of mushrooms?

Many other things we use every day to achieve things, like meat for example. You dont need it, but its easy to stay healty if you eat it. You dont need shrooms to live either, so is it safe to do them often?

I know they are physically safe, but Im talking about mentally and spirtually safe. Do you think the Gaian mind wants us to trip often, or save it for a special day?


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3098239 - 09/06/04 10:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I regret most of my trips, especially if I don't seek spiritual enlightenment on them. Sometimes I get forced to be enlightenned and it kind of sucks in the process of learning. Once learned, I am more powerful indeed.

I learned that anger is a descision on shrooms and when I decided to get angry, the color of the room changed. I got sick the next day and regretted that trip, although I learned something.

I say save it for a special day. Make it pour when it is only drizzling. Make it calm when it's a hurricane. You could really do anything.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3098274 - 09/06/04 10:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think it varies greatly from person to person. Assess yourself after trips and see if you find any damage. Some people can trip weekly for years with no problems, some people can't. If you feel okay, you probably are.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3098282 - 09/06/04 10:41 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

you want to look for yourself at what is toxic and how it is toxic.
mushrooms may not be healthy more often than 6 times a year, year after year.

also you want to measure how you are integrating your insights:
the changes should be subtle, though inside you may be turned upside down completely.

freedom is peculiar that way. if it makes a spectacle of itself, it becomes trapped in its own web.

that said, I have been using salvia much more frequently (1 puff in 3 days or more) for over 20 months, but it has less physical toxicity and much shorter duration.


Edited by redgreenvines (09/06/04 10:43 AM)


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3098357 - 09/06/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

salvia makes me sick to my stomache, and I feel wierd for like 2 hours afterwords.

But yea I guess it depends on the person, I was just wondering if shrooms are the "cheap" way out.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099077 - 09/06/04 02:59 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

"I was just wondering if shrooms are the "cheap" way out"

If you make them,they will be.But they are not easy to make into an "escape drug".Alcohol is more prefferable for that,and other drugs that will not mess with your perception,your ideas,your view of the world.

I hate "escape drugs" ,i dont really like it when people use them this way.Mushrooms and psychedelics in general have their very own special way of "giving whats coming" to people that cannot respect first and foremost themselves and psychedelics.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Psiloman]
    #3099090 - 09/06/04 03:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

At frist tripping was a non spiritual thing to me, then they tore open my spiritual world. They showed me God and the endless power of the mind.

This is why the government doesn't want you on them; they make you think outside yourself which is far beyond the box or cave.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099177 - 09/06/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that it's different for every individual.  "Know your body...know your mind," type of thing. 

Personally, I always know when I need to take a break from psychedelics for awhile, to keep myself grounded less I disappear entirely in a schizophrenic reality.  For a few weeks after my five gram trip, I thought I was gone.  But a few months sober and lots of reading to try and understand the experience, and I feel better then ever. 

There is just that awareness that perks up whenever I need to stay sober for awhile. 

Also, my mind-set towards mushrooms has completely been altered by that five gram experience.  Never, never, never will I think of mushrooms as anything but sacred ever again.  I will always respect their power. 

So nowadays, I only trip as my heart (and mind) guides me.  :smile:


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099280 - 09/06/04 03:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yes they're bad to do too often, but how much is too often? It varies from person to person. Someone above mentioned regretting the trips where they don't seek spiritual enlightenment. Well, personally, I trip for spiritual enlightenment and for fun, and to me, that line is blurred. Just having fun can be a very spiritual experience for me, and having spiritual insights can be very fun. I don't see it as an either/or situation.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099446 - 09/06/04 04:45 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

everything is bad if you do it too much.
so the question must be how much is too much for you.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099539 - 09/06/04 05:12 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Eat them everyday for a week and then tell me who you feel about your guys advice.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099555 - 09/06/04 05:16 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

They are sacred, they should be respected and enjoyed in moderation.
They will let you know what is enough.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3099762 - 09/06/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

If you trip too often, the trip looses its wonderment because it becomes overly familiar. If you trip only once a year lets say, the experience is more rewarding. It's like a favorite vacation spot. If you're at your lake cabin all the time, you'll get used to it and won't really be a place to 'get away from it all.' Go there once a season, it will be familiar, not to the point of boredom, but familiar as in 'this is why I keep coming back every season.'

I trip maybe once or twice a year now. I imagine once I get older, the intrevals between trips will get bigger, maybe 2 or 3 years between trips until it eventually becomes decades between trips.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3101028 - 09/06/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

drugs and practices can give you so much before you have to start seeking your own wisdom, knowledge and truth. most of these things that people see, feel, gain are already inside of us and already know.

if you create a weakness in one of the mind, body or spirit it is going to drag the rest down.


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3101080 - 09/06/04 11:52 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I think if you do them too often you are just using them as an escape from reality as if you were an alcoholic or an addict...they are definately a great tool on the road to enlightenment but eventually you are gonna have to come back down, I like to use them about once a month, which I believe is a good amount...I was once using 4-ho-dipt on an almost daily basis for about two months, and it got to the point where it was no longer a learning or spiritual experience, It was just another addiction that I felt the need to do in order to feel normal, and it wound me up in the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack, when in reality it was just the worst anxiety attack I have ever had, all from the drug that I thought was helping me with my anxiety problem, and helping me towards enlightenment...and as for obtaining the Gaian Mind, mushrooms are a wonderful tool, but I suppose too many of them would hinder you just as too much of 4-ho-dipt definately hindered me...I relate this question to the myth of Icarus, " flew too high, and burnt the wings" so be careful...please take this advice from a first hand experience, try to utilize the knowledge gained from your mushroom experiences in sober everyday life, If you do, your next trip should be better than the last...save it for a sunny day...peace...


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Re: Are mushrooms bad to do too often? [Re: Scolecite]
    #3101100 - 09/06/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Everything is better in moderation...especially drugs and religion.


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