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CreamSoda
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How often to fan?
#3094648 - 09/05/04 10:31 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I am not sure how often i should be fanning the cakes, last time I was fanning them way too much and it was never too moist in there.
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TripGrower
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3094660 - 09/05/04 10:35 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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once a day is enough even if you skip a day no biggy
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Hamurabi
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: TripGrower]
#3094673 - 09/05/04 10:41 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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In my opinion you should fan at least 3 times daily
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muse_sick
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3094675 - 09/05/04 10:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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steph that is horrible advice you need to fan at least 2 times a day although i usually fan like 5 or sometimes more although try and keep them at least a couple hours apart air exchange is very important! if your moisture is low, try misting more or adding more perilite to your fruiting chamber
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fastfred
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3094677 - 09/05/04 10:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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A CO2 drainage hole will help. Then I don't even fan at all really. Post about your last grow... I'm interested in reports of over fanning. Despite the fact that hyphae advocates nearly constant fanning, this method has always worked for me. Don't your arms get tired hyphae? -FF
Edited by fastfred (09/05/04 12:07 PM)
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hyphae
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3094839 - 09/05/04 11:51 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ok one more time heres the facts, the more fanning the better (fresh air exchange) as long as moisture is replaced. Fanning also creates transpiration which is the vehicle that water uses to enlarge/mature your mushrooms. Now actual fanning may not be required as long as the casing has evaporation to a degree (perfectly automated systems). Also this is optimum for massive yields but not necessary as in invitro which are very poor pinsets but invitro wasn't developed for optimum growth anyway. Like in nature mushrooms thrive in a "near saturation" environment and the endless amount of fresh air that nature provides especially in a foggy environment is the best that there is hands down which also keeps contams at bay. One more thing about fog is that it can provide all the moisture needed for pinning without harming developing primordia it's a very beautiful thing to watch. My suggestion is to fan as often as you can with a fine misting AFTER each fanning. GL
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george castanza
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: hyphae]
#3095677 - 09/05/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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kramer fans once an hour if he remebers...
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3095710 - 09/05/04 04:49 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I know this is a dumb question but for fanning you should just use a book or something, or an actual fan? lol
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george castanza
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lid of ter.?
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dustz
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3096145 - 09/05/04 07:41 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Also, I get the impression that frequent air exchange helps to prevent contams that enjoy stagnant air...correct me if I'm wrong. It seems worth investing in either an air pump or cool mist.
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hyphae
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: dustz]
#3096167 - 09/05/04 07:48 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thats how nature takes care of molds for the most part!
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ShaqAttack
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: hyphae]
#3096267 - 09/05/04 08:24 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had 6 cakes in a cooler with perlite and water and was having a hell of a time getting any pinning or any action at all for that matter. I had one cake that had a 1" shroom that grew and then died. I was fanning and misting, but obviously was failing some where along the line. Being frustrated - I gave up and put the cooler in a corner and moved on to bigger and better things. I came back in 2 weeks to clean the room out and was going to clean up the cooler too. To my suprise - when I opened the cooler lid there were about 20 huge over grown shrooms. The stems were huge and bloated. I guess even a squirrel can find a nut - LOL!!
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hyphae
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: ShaqAttack]
#3096302 - 09/05/04 08:34 PM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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fastfred
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: ShaqAttack]
#3097716 - 09/06/04 01:44 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
ShaqAttack said: I had 6 cakes in a cooler with perlite and water and was having a hell of a time getting any pinning or any action at all for that matter. I had one cake that had a 1" shroom that grew and then died. I was fanning and misting, but obviously was failing some where along the line. Being frustrated - I gave up and put the cooler in a corner and moved on to bigger and better things. I came back in 2 weeks to clean the room out and was going to clean up the cooler too. To my suprise - when I opened the cooler lid there were about 20 huge over grown shrooms. The stems were huge and bloated. I guess even a squirrel can find a nut - LOL!!
Hyphae may think it's funny to laugh at you when you fail using his advice, but I don't think that's cool at all.
Another case of over-fanning causing a failure. And another success for the neglect tek.
-FF
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utopianglory
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: fastfred]
#3098030 - 09/06/04 05:14 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
fastfred said:
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ShaqAttack said: I had 6 cakes in a cooler with perlite and water and was having a hell of a time getting any pinning or any action at all for that matter. I had one cake that had a 1" shroom that grew and then died. I was fanning and misting, but obviously was failing some where along the line. Being frustrated - I gave up and put the cooler in a corner and moved on to bigger and better things. I came back in 2 weeks to clean the room out and was going to clean up the cooler too. To my suprise - when I opened the cooler lid there were about 20 huge over grown shrooms. The stems were huge and bloated. I guess even a squirrel can find a nut - LOL!!
Hyphae may think it's funny to laugh at you when you fail using his advice, but I don't think that's cool at all.
Another case of over-fanning causing a failure. And another success for the neglect tek.
-FF
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myndreach
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3098050 - 09/06/04 05:33 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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yeah at least 3 times, i try to get 5 a day
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fastfred
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: myndreach]
#3098067 - 09/06/04 05:56 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Why, are you using a shoebox size bin?
Just get a bigger bin and you won't have to fan any more than once a day IME.
-FF
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CreamSoda
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: fastfred]
#3098254 - 09/06/04 08:28 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well, last time I would fan nearly every two hours and it let all the moisture out and the cakes were drier then they should have been apparently.
A C02 dranage hole... is that just a hole in the lid?
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KaptainK
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: CreamSoda]
#3098259 - 09/06/04 08:30 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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I would say fan as often as you can whilst keepin the humidity up
I use perlite in the bottom and run an air pump in there so its constantly "Fanning" and the humidity stays right up where it should.
Works out great for me since all the work i have is the harvesting.
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hyphae
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Re: How often to fan? [Re: fastfred]
#3098691 - 09/06/04 11:20 AM (19 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
fastfred said:
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ShaqAttack said: I had 6 cakes in a cooler with perlite and water and was having a hell of a time getting any pinning or any action at all for that matter. I had one cake that had a 1" shroom that grew and then died. I was fanning and misting, but obviously was failing some where along the line. Being frustrated - I gave up and put the cooler in a corner and moved on to bigger and better things. I came back in 2 weeks to clean the room out and was going to clean up the cooler too. To my suprise - when I opened the cooler lid there were about 20 huge over grown shrooms. The stems were huge and bloated. I guess even a squirrel can find a nut - LOL!!
Hyphae may think it's funny to laugh at you when you fail using his advice, but I don't think that's cool at all.
Another case of over-fanning causing a failure. And another success for the neglect tek.
-FF
You really have no clue FF do you? FYI I was laughing with him It was a success in my eyes. Now they say a fool is born everyday and I have no choice but to agree. You are getting old.
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