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OfflineGazzBut
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Moby's take on US politics
    #3090426 - 09/04/04 07:37 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Strange metaphors from the bald one!!

(As a Radiohead fan myself I object to them being compared to any aspect of the US political system!  :grin:)

"you know what politics is/are like in the united states?
it's like pop-music and/or dating.
example a: pop-music.
republicans are like ashley simpson, and democrats are like radiohead. radiohead fans will forever be mystified as to why someone would buy an ashley simpson cd, but ashley simpson's handlers/managers understand what the lowest common denominator are looking for and they give it to them. radiohead fans think 'that disposable pop music is terrible, and someday people will see the error of their ways and buy radiohead cd's instead of ashley simpson cd's', meanwhile ashley simpson and her managers are selling millions of records.
example b: dating.
democrats are the bright, conscientious, responsible guy in the corner of the party and republicans are the loud, boastful, arrogant guy in the middle of the room. the bright guy in the corner thinks 'that loud guy in the middle of the room is a jerk and eventually everyone will see him for what he is', but the loud guy goes home with the hot girl and the bright guy in the corner goes home alone.

my point?
yes, radiohead are better than ashley simpson.
and yes, the bright, interesting guy in the corner is better than the loud jerk in the middle of the room. but ashley simpson and the loud jerk in the middle of the room know what people want, and that's why they(and the republicans)are winning.
democrats are nuanced and complicated and republicans are simple and sound-bitey.
people want bright shiny simplicity, not dark obscure complexity.
the democrats put their trust in people's better instincts whereas the republicans put their trust in people's basest instincts.
and that's why the republicans are winning, because they're not governed by ideals, they're governed by results. the republicans want to win no matter what, whereas the democrats want to win because the public will, hopefully, recognize the primacy of their ideas.
and that's why democrats are the step-child party. that's why democrats are the avis to the republicans hertz. that's why democrats are the runners up. because the republicans know how to sell and they know how to win.
of course my hope is that the democrats will learn from the republicans and learn how to win.
but too often it seems that democrats take the 'high road' when the noble and effective thing would be to join the battle in the trenches.
republicans are dirty, and will stop at nothing to win. we saw in 2000 that when democrats take the 'high road' that they lose.
so that's the choice, democrats: take the 'high road' and lose, or learn how to compete in the real world and run the risk of winning...
bill clinton did it, and he won.
al gore didn't do it, and he lost.
i hope that john kerry learns from bill clinton...
-moby"


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: GazzBut]
    #3090467 - 09/04/04 08:34 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting.

The Democrats maybe the under dog this time, but I think third party candidates should be Radiohead.







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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: Learyfan]
    #3090563 - 09/04/04 10:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

lol! I reckon Thom yorke would stand if he could.  :grin:


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: GazzBut]
    #3090569 - 09/04/04 10:10 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I am not republican or democrat, so I don't take offense to Moby's
words. But what a fucking biased twit he is.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #3090586 - 09/04/04 10:24 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Biased? Who isn't?






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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: Learyfan]
    #3090590 - 09/04/04 10:29 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)


Biased? Who isn't?

Most people are, but he is idiotically so.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: GazzBut]
    #3091209 - 09/04/04 02:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Moby's an idiot. Robert Anton Wilson expressed a much more accurate assessment when he wrote of his realization, "My God,... the left wing is as robotic as the right wing."


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: Evolving]
    #3093245 - 09/05/04 12:11 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

So is that why I can't get laid?


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3093265 - 09/05/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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thieverycorp said:
So is that why I can't get laid?



Nope. That's not it.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #3093268 - 09/05/04 12:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

damn...


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: thieverycorp]
    #3093362 - 09/05/04 12:38 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I'll trust Moby's stance on politics when his stance on music is reasonable.

And until he admits his music is craptastic and monotonous, that'll never happen.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: GazzBut]
    #3093493 - 09/05/04 01:16 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Moby needs to get his head out of his ass. I think it is sad how simplistic and one-sided his opinion is.

I think Democrats are more like Ashley Simpson, they look good in front of a camera, say things that people want to here but have no substance, sell on style and marketing rather than content.

I'm not sure what kind of music Republicans are like. Probobly country, it may be simple, formulaic and written by somebody else, but at least they mean what they sing.

The Green Party is like Radiohead, intelligent but delusional and paranoid.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3093974 - 09/05/04 05:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

I think it is sad how simplistic and one-sided his opinion is.






Quote:

The Green Party is like Radiohead, intelligent but delusional and paranoid.





I would give you the benefit of the doubt and think you were being ironic here but somehow I dont think you are capable of such humour.


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Re: Moby's take on US politics [Re: Evolving]
    #3093984 - 09/05/04 05:09 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Robert Anton Wilson expressed a much more accurate assessment when he wrote of his realization, "My God,... the left wing is as robotic as the right wing."




Ive read it and its part of the reason I dont like being labelled a lefty!


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