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Sterilize casing (help)
    #3089604 - 09/04/04 12:38 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Ok, so I'm about to cross over into the wonderful world of casing.  One tek I've seen that appeals to me is the Sea of Shrooms tek.  (why the fuck do they call it thay anyway??)  It just looks simple for beginners like me :smile:  My question is how do I sterilize my casing mix?  I haven't found anything that explains this clearly.  What's the best way?  Do I bake, microwave, or pressure cook the casing material?  Best casing mix to use?  I was going to go with vermiculite and peat moss.  Has anyone heard of a mix called Jiffy Mix?  I've heard that before.  Do I add water before I sterilize or after?  Do I have to use water/hydrogen peroxide for mixting or moisture?  How much of it?  1:1??  If anyone can answer my questions I'd really appreciate it.  Also if you have any other tips or suggestions that would be very helpfull.


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3089615 - 09/04/04 12:43 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I know you dont want to use a 1:1 raition you want to use 10:1 1 being the H2O2. sterilze after you add water. Sterilize is the last step... well before you introduce the MYC. anyway... enjoy!


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3089621 - 09/04/04 12:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

add water, then steralize in the microwace, 2min on high is sufficient for me, casing 101 is a much more simpler tek


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3089760 - 09/04/04 01:23 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Anytime I want to cook the bad out of my casing material. I just spread it out on a big cookie sheet in the oven. Bake it at 300 degs for 1 hour. The water I use to give it moisture is PC'd


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3089801 - 09/04/04 01:32 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

search for magash's rye tek, It will tell you a great casing using coco coir and vermiculite. Personally i would pressure cook it. Thats really the only way to really make sure your free of contaminats. and The ratio is actually 4:1. So if you were using 1 inch of substrate you would use 1/4 inch of casing material. You also can put both a top and bottom layer of casing when you case.


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: hawksapprentice]
    #3103150 - 09/07/04 02:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks alot for everyones help!


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3103433 - 09/07/04 03:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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The water I use to give it moisture is PC'd




Is this necessary? Is it not possible to completely sterilize water by boiling????


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: ricelicker]
    #3103443 - 09/07/04 03:43 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I suppose it is but like I got this huge 21 quart Pc and I just do a gallon at a time and leave it in the fridge. Plus all the water I use for cakes and casings is first dumped thru our compost pile and it is all brown and full of stuff both good and bad. So for me I need to Pc it.

From what I have read by others yes boiling is fine.


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3103801 - 09/07/04 05:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ive neve3r sterilized my casing mix. ive licked and coughed all over it too, to see if it would contam. ur really set with no sterilization.....


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3104221 - 09/07/04 06:27 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I agree... a dude uses verm straight out the bag. Add a little water and you're all set.


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3104231 - 09/07/04 06:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

microwave your casing layer in a microwave container for 5-10 minutes


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: Madnessplus]
    #3104399 - 09/07/04 07:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well the way i see it is, it has to be pretty clean straight from the bag, otherwise it would mold inside the bag just sitting on the store shelf. Thats the ideal climate anyways, dark, stale air, moist from being enclosed. If mold doesnt grow in those conditions i doubt it will in your fruiting chamber;)

Especially if you use straight verm, mold really has nothing to grow on with that stuff....


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Re: Sterilize casing (help) [Re: ricelicker]
    #3104698 - 09/07/04 07:52 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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I agree... a dude uses verm straight out the bag. Add a little water and you're all set.




the last bag of verm i got was completely soaked with water and i've had bad expieriences without steralizing the casing so i would say to jarit up and pc it, been working good for me. my casings have been only verm and have flushed great.


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