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Offlinebolie
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Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake!
    #3086885 - 09/03/04 10:32 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys. I have recently got into real full on lucid dreaming and it has changed my live x10 for the better.

Here is an extract from a website

"For those of you who haven't experienced a lucid dream before, make sure you read the following as it will help you discover one of the most life changing experiences you will ever have. Imagine being able to do anything and everything you have always dreamed of. "I can fly around, have an interesting conversation with Albert Schweitzer, I can explore all these new dimensions of reality, and not to mention, I can have any sup sex I want"(Waking Life, Richard Linklater).

Lucid/Conscious dreaming means realizing that you are dreaming while in the dream state. Once you realize you are dreaming you are free to do absolutely anything your mind can come up with and more. The reason lucid dreaming appeals to so many people is the realness of it. Lets look at how it works...

In everyday life you use your senses for millions of actions a day, for instance looking at an apple. When you look at the apple light bounces off the apple into your eyes. Your eyes then code these light waves into data that travels down the back of your eye and into your brain where it gets decoded and a exact model is constructed from the data.

When you go to sleep however parts of your brain stay awake and parts of your brain go to sleep. The part that stays awake keeps constructing these models without the need of your senses telling them how and this is what we call dreams. The brain doesn't need any of your senses to tell you what to do because it remembers how to construct everything you have seen, whist also being able to construct pretty much anything you haven't seen or experienced by using the logic and various laws of nature it keeps stored.

This is why when you have a lucid dream it seems 100% real! The first time you have a lucid dream is one of the most incredible experiences you may ever have. The realness of lucid dreams is usually too intense to handle the first few times it happens, so you very quickly wake up after the point of realization. It is as real as it feels now sitting at the computer reading this screen. In fact...whats to say your not dreaming now? of course your not dreaming right, I mean this is reality right? You may be correct this time, but the idea is if you ask yourself this question often, you will start asking yourself in your dreams until one day the answer will be "hang on a min- oh my god".

The parts that go to sleep are the parts the keep all your thoughts in context, that is why you have strange and abstract dreams. Lucid dreaming is all about gaining control of this randomness and manipulating it however you want.

If this sounds apealing to you check out www.envisage.net.nz or google for lucid dreams.

if it doesn't then READ IT AGAIN

THANKS <3 bolie


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3087348 - 09/03/04 12:20 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Right on bolie - lucid dreaming is the schnizzit! I've only had about 10 full on extended ones in my life, and a few others that I would describe as semi-lucid.

Have you ever had it where you're in a lucid dream, and then you go 'OK, I'm gonna wake up now', or you go to have a conversation with someone and suddenly you forget you're dreaming and it goes back to non-lucid? Thats weird when that happens. I thought I had actually woken up so assumed it was no longer a dream, hahaha...

I remember another crazy experience with lucid dreaming I had that you reminded me of was at this years Autumn Equinox party at the Willows...sometime during the morning, after I'd had a really full on night of amazing spiritual experience involving time travel etc. I fell asleep in some long grass. Then I got lucid and in my dream I went and found people who were at the rave and talked to them. Then I went up to the DJ booth and put some fucking weeeeird psytrance on (I fucking love it when your brain creates cool music in dreams) and I yelled down to the people 'Hahahaha! I'm having a lucid dream! You're all figments of my imagination!!!'... then I went for a walk down to the river and I managed to push myself down through rocks until I was buried, but I was not able to fly. When I woke up I talked to the people who I'd been talking to but they hadn't consciously received any messages. But it was cool none the less. About 5 hours after that I nearly killed myself and my friend by falling asleep at the wheel at 110 km/h, we did a 180 spin and missed a head on collision by less than a second - it was a very very crazy moment, slow motion, terror, calmness, everything, amazing! As a matter of fact I think that party flicked some kind of switch for me, some very strange stuff was happening from about midnight that night until about a month or more later (and still is even). So the moral of the story is don't drive when you're still in the afterglow of a life changing experience and you've been up all night dancing and trancing out...silly idea (unless of course you're into that whole "This is the last second of my life...I've really fucked up this time" buzz)

Oh by the way I downloaded one of your tracks, its fuckin sweet! You sellin any CD's?

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3087436 - 09/03/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Ive had dreams which turn into lucid dreams...one time i was swimming in a huge ocean surrounded by islands and i climbed a cliff. Saw this huge 16 foot monster (literally) and was scared, then i realized it was a dream and started to pound the shit out of shit, it was fun hahaha

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3087509 - 09/03/04 12:58 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Last night I became aware that I was dreaming, but was unable to control it. Even though I was lucid I did not have the ability to alter the dream itself much.

I dreamt I was at work. It was the same as any other day at work. Then I realized I was dreaming. So I thought "Well this is a dream so I should be able to change this". But I couldn't. People would come to my desk and give me reports and ask me about them and I would say "Man, there isn't any point responding to you because this is a dream".

And so it went on for a good half dozen or more times. True story.


"it's bad enough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage but now they get your dreams for free."


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: Revelation]
    #3087899 - 09/03/04 02:41 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

This is something I've been trying to do for a long, long time.
Well, at least a year or two. No success yet but I keep trying. I cannot wait for the day that I can do this.

Does anybody have any suggestions as to what guide they read on it, or a website they read on it that worked for them? Or were you the type that were just able to do it all your life without the need to learn it?

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: keepontruckin]
    #3087974 - 09/03/04 03:01 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

for a long time it rarey worked for me, but by learning the WBTS method, i now have one every 2-3 nights, some of which are insanely long and awesome.

(wake back to sleep method: wake up an hour early and walk around a bit, then go back to bed while mentally reciting 'i will lucid dream')

some of those dreams have been peak experiences in my life. An average person spends something like 4 (or was it 8) years of his life in a dream state. Why waste it?

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3088530 - 09/03/04 05:45 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

its all good and all but not that great i see lucid dreaming as escaping from the day to day exsistence one shouldn't get caught up in it to much

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3088596 - 09/03/04 06:05 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Um, I'm sorry, but it's this physical-consensus reality grounding that hinders creative realities. Don't judge others for not being the puppet others want them to be.

No offense, just my view :heart:


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3088941 - 09/03/04 07:13 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

The first lucid dream I had involded three aliens. I was in a very small mall and I walked out and there were three people. I looked them over and one was a boy and the other was a girl and the third, well; the third was an ALIEN! Then all three turned into aliens and they staired at me and I hated them for it and I took controll of the dream. After that the world of the mall dissolved into a fractile vision and I don't remember the rest.

I also had a dream I compressed water (impossible in life) in a dream I knew I was in.

I also expanded a room's walls on a self enduced attempt (I prayed for God to enduce it).

Recently I was able to levitate and fly by activating nerves a certain way in my back.

I also had a semi lucid dream I had "electrokinesis" and I turned off an alarm in a building I woke up in. I went back to bed and had a dream within a dream too.


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: MAGnum]
    #3088969 - 09/03/04 07:19 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Alot of my dreams are at somewhat lucid. Some people got it and some don't, I think alot depends on a belief that the mind can alter the world around it in the physical "awake" world. If you hold the belief, it will show in your dreams.

One shouldn't be as preoccupied with controlling dreams as controlling reality through the mind. Perhaps controlling dreams is a step in the right direction for that. That is where my goals are concerned, though I haven't been practicing.

Lucid dreaming is a whilesome recreation free of drugs that allows a person to explore the mind, I enjoy it greatly.


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3089577 - 09/03/04 10:27 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Lucid dreams are amazing, although I've only had one. I'm really bad at recognizing when I'm dreaming. Its weird how there's different levels of lucidity. Some people can control everything about their dreams. When I had mine I was able to fly and walk through walls, but it took some effort. And as someone else said, they couldnt control anything. Even though I cant force lucid dreams, I've gotten really good at remembering them, which is the next best thing. Dreams are fun even when your not in control.

http://www.lucidity.com/ for more info. They have some weird device that is supposed to help you have lucid dreams. I cant remember if that site is any good or not, but they should at least have some decent links.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3090053 - 09/04/04 12:34 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

A post just like this got me interested in lucid dreaming awhile back. And i clicked one of the links and started readng up about it. Since then I have occasionally had some amazing lucid dreams ( average of 1 or 2 a week i would say ... at least that i can remember) .

Some of you were mentioning about having a dream inside a dream. Well i had one such dream this one day so ill throw it down for ya.

I was in the backyard of my parents house, which is about a half acre wide. I was just walking around and i spotted a GIGANTIC mushroom, it was fuckin huge (the cap was the size of a small night table or somethin) and I was just staring at it in my dream saying "holy fuck thats the biggest fucking mushroom ive ever seen"

Then suddenly I woke up, or thought i did, in my old room. I went into the kitchen and started tellin my mom "hey mom i just had the wildest dream about some shit goin on in our backyard".

I wanted to show her where the dream took place i guess so i showed her to the backyard. I was like "mom this is right about where i found the gigantic mushroom" and i bend over and see a patch of regularly sized mushrooms and i get all excited again HOLY FUCK I DREAMED ABOUT MUSHROOMS AND now their are some growing out here right where i pictured in my dream, NO FUCKING WAY!!@" Then i woke up for real this time and had to smoke a bowl. Not really much of a lucid dream but it was fuckin trippy.

I do however think ive found a good way for myself to lucid dream. On mulitple occasions i have this dream im in high school again ....im either walkin around in the halls or seein people i used to see or some random shit is goin on.. ..

this is the part of that dream that was always varied....but when it was time to leave school i would start walking out to my car which i used to park a couple blocks from school. While walking to my car...

i would get that kinda feelin when you try to run in a dream....your legs feel all rubbery and you feel like gravity is trying to push you down or back more than usual... and in the dream im like just slow it down no need to rush....

and this would cause me to start floating slowly into the air until im flying over this sidewalk i used to walk down for years to my car. I see people looking up at me with a bewildered look in there eye and this is where i come to realize , holy shit theres no way this could really happen, im really dreaming...kick FUCIN ASS*!&@^!@

theres more but this post is long enough already. i want to try to will myself in a lucid dream tonight ;D

peace

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: deff]
    #3090223 - 09/04/04 02:15 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

sorry if you think i was judging but i wasn't.
it can create confidence to do things that you haven't tried before but if you do it quite often i just think that escaping your daily life and not creating your dreams in to reality

Edited by spudamore (09/04/04 02:40 AM)

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3090242 - 09/04/04 02:24 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I dont think he was trying to say by lucid dreaming you will create dreams into reality.

Also experiencing another reality is not about escaping your daily life, its about experiencing something that is within you already. When you sleep your not involved in your everyday life anyway so why not have something to experience instead of just dead space?

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: DankBluntZ]
    #3090252 - 09/04/04 02:29 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i very much so think it can, you can conquer your fears and inhibitions through it.
if you go out of your way to do and more often. i think it is escaping daily exsistence

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3090263 - 09/04/04 02:38 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I didnt quite understand your previous post but i can agree with you on your last post =)

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3090372 - 09/04/04 04:23 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hey there everybody. I learned of Lucid Dreaming awhile back and found it very interesting although I was never able to do it. Has anyone ever heard of Astral Projection? Apparently it's similar to Lucid Dreaming. From what I understand, everynight when you go to sleep, you go to the astral(5th) dimension. The difference between the two is that when you are in a LD you are in the astral but your mind is projecting your surroundings so what you see is not real and just a dream, but when you consciously project into the astral, you leave your physical body in your astral body into this other dimension and can fly, travel throughout the universe, talk to masters (Jesus, and other spiritual leaders) and learn the secrets of life. IMO this is even better than learning to have lucid dreams. Im enrolled in a free course at this site http://www.mysticweb.org that teaches you how to do it. I haven't been able to do it yet but it sounds exciting.

Could it be that they are just teaching you to train your mind into creating this other world? Possibly, I don't know yet as I haven't been able to do it yet. Would I blindly accept this all to be true? Of course not but I do believe there is more to all of this than just the physical reality we know of. Alot of the people there say that once you can do it you will KNOW for yourself that it is real and that excites me.

Either way, there is lots of information on their boards about LDs and other spiritual stuff. The course is free so theres nothing to lose really.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: DIGIT4LBOY]
    #3090392 - 09/04/04 04:58 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

here is a pretty good site it teaches raising energy aswell and creating and strengthening energy channels in your bodies
http://www.astralpulse.com/
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3090432 - 09/04/04 05:50 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

last week i was flying from chile to madrid and had a short lucid dream... i woke up in the plane but i knew i was still dreaming becouse everything was weird but my eyes were burning so i couldn't keep them open and i slipped back into a regular dream... (pissed me off!!!) it was the second time this kind of thing happend to me...
first time i woke up in a parking lot near my home but i didn't want to wake up so i could keep dreaming (failing to realize i was STILL dreaming and actualy acompleshing my goal of having a lucid dream :smile: )
and then i just closed my eyes and kept dreaming... when i finelly did wake up i wanted to slap my self for missing such a good chance to LD :smile:

oh well... there will be more LD's !!!


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: Simisu]
    #3090499 - 09/04/04 07:11 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I love semi-lucid video game dreams.

In most of my "nightmares," I realize the dream and turn it lucid and escape. I wonder if this happens alot to otheres? To me it signifies taking controll of a destiny gone bad.

I also get dejavu, I had dejavu that cops would be in my neighborhood. On sept 2nd, I knew to myself that it would be the day and there was a horrible fire. Cops arrived on the scene first (the cop in my dream. I posted about it in the pub.

Dejavu is better than lucid dreaming, it involves a way to pierce through time and see the future (which really should not be possible). I know this is possible to enduce (of course), but I never tried it. It happens naturally. I just follow my instincts.

Sweet dreams!


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3090540 - 09/04/04 07:49 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

spudamore said:
i very much so think it can,  you can conquer your fears and inhibitions through it.
if you go out of your way to do and more often.  i think it is escaping daily existence




Going to sleep is escaping daily existence. We seek sleep every night should we treat it as an escape from life? Your god damn right it is and I usually look forward to it. It doesn't detract from my waking life it enhances it.

The higher grounds of reality are to be explored. Otherwise you are just a worker ant with your nose to the ground. Some may lose their way while in the higher country but that has never stopped explorers in the past.

Please do not escape reality because 40 years of sitting in a cubical are waiting for you back on earth. :thumbup:

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: phreakyzen]
    #3090553 - 09/04/04 07:57 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

these people that seek to live their lives through lucid dreaming are escaping daily life, there is lot more to the mind and life then living journeys in the mind

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3090603 - 09/04/04 08:38 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Ive had loads of partially lucid dream expieriences and about one full on lucid expierience but most of the time that ive tried to get fully lucid i get too excited and wake up or get too scared, an example would be last week i was on holiday and I woke up while dreming , what happened was i was in my room but everything looked different, all gray and sleek and there was a strange pattern on the wall, i then felt a presence to the right of my bed and this presence started to tickle my face (sounds weird i know and it felt weird) i then tried to say hello to this presence and then i woke up, i guess it was kind so much of a sensory overload that i got too excited and woke, but im hopeful i can achieve a fully lucid expiernce within the coming months.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3090610 - 09/04/04 08:42 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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these people that seek to live their lives through lucid dreaming are escaping daily life, there is lot more to the mind and life then living journeys in the mind




I want to learn lucid dreaming to enhance my present life and grow to be more aware of my own counciousness and the nature of couciousness in general, not to escape from or not face reality.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3092234 - 09/04/04 05:43 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the tip about asking yourself if this is a dream during daily life. I have been very interested in lucid dreaming for a while now but I haven't been able to acheive it. Until this Morning!! I had my first lucid dream experience and it was amazing. I was very surprised at how real and vivid it seemed. The first thing I did was check a few clocks to see if the numbers were scrambled and difficult to make out, this assured me that it was a dream. I spent most of the time wandering around observing the surroundings and characters. I didn't try to manipulate anything or preform anything that I couldn't do in daily life although I was very impressed that if I expected a certain person to be in a room, sure enough they would be there when I entered. Very awesome experience, I can't wait to have another one and explore around alot more!

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: Soul]
    #3092293 - 09/04/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

For some reason the brain usually can't put together words in dreams so if words are scrambled. I have read in dreams, however, so it is possible, just not common (you will never read a nevel in a dream). It is a good way to tell you are in a dream that the words are scrambles and congrats on the first lucid dream you ever had.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: Mong]
    #3092453 - 09/04/04 06:53 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

yeah learn it but don't get caught up in it that you stop physically living thats all i am saying

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3093506 - 09/04/04 11:18 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hey have any of you lucid dreamers ever tried to to talk to God or some higher power?


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: bolie]
    #3093780 - 09/05/04 01:10 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I usually don't have really lucid dreams because as soon as I am aware enough I start to wake up, whether I want to or not.

The last and most lucid dream (though only semi-lucid) I can remember I was staying in somebodies guest room in a house in what seemed to North Shore Auckland, NZ. I think it looked a little more like Hawaii. I looked out my window and I saw a bright and beautiful blue sky and the sun reflecting off the ocean waves. There were people windsurfing everywhere. I think it was once of the coolest things I have seen in a dream.
This house had lots of windows and each room was full of light from the ocean. Across the water was a lush green island. I walked down the beach with my host. There were lots of flowers and trees along the beach, and I remember being amused by the his Kiwi personality.

I woke up briefly, but when I fell back asleep I was standing outside a third floor apartment somewhere in Seattle. I clearly remember knowing I was asleep. I think I flew around a little bit. I don't remember much else.

A few times in my life my dreams, if only for a few seconds, seem more real than my waking life.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: MAGnum]
    #3094031 - 09/05/04 03:35 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, Wow! what an awsome bunch of replies. I am glad to hear that some of you are activley doing this. Its a hard thing to convince people is true because as soon as the skeptical thoughts get in it ruins the likelyhood of them having one.

I average about 5-6 lucid dreams a week now using only the methods found on my website www.envisage.net.nz . It has taken me about a year to get this far and about 50-60% of my lucid dreams I have nearly complete control.

I have had some pretty interesting journeys as you might imagine.

I am trying to grow my website over the next few weeks as I actually have an advertising campaign getting ready to launch soon. This is a big passion in my life and I want to let as many people know about it as I can. I think its one of the closest ways 'straight' people can open thier mind as in my experience ignorance is a big problem in this area. The fact that this kind of reality exsists OUTSIDE of reality, as many of you have said in your posts, can be a truely mind bending experience but with a little practice you can gain control.

I ask that if this topic intrests you and you wish to contribute to my cause (spreading the word of lucid dreaming) then you are most welcome to sign up to www.envisage.net.nz and contribute to the forums. Perhaps you have an idea that you want to write an article about? I plan to have one of the best (both quantity and quality) archives of dream related materiel on the internet. I also the circuity of a small cheap gadget being designed that will hopefully help induce lucid dreams that I will sell very very cheaply if they succeed.

Once again if you can contribute in any way It would be much much appreciated! even just to sign up and say hi! to make it look like the forums are nice and active when I go hard out and advertise it.

Apologies if this post has a tint of spam!  :tongue:

thanks a lot

-Tom
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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3094410 - 09/05/04 08:48 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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these people that seek to live their lives through lucid dreaming are escaping daily life, there is lot more to the mind and life then living journeys in the mind




I do not understand what you are saying. You cannot avoid sleep and lucid dreaming is just becoming more conscious during sleep. It is not escaping further it is utilizing something that already happens. It's like telling somebody you better not enjoy eating because you will no longer enjoy the moments you don't eat. Should we not spice up our foods because to do so is making the rest of life bland?

Yes there is so much more but to me waking or sleep both come from the mind. If I can control my dreams then I believe the logical step is controlling waking. What exactly are you afraid of, not waking up? That will happen regardless.

People create obligations in their minds whether to waking life or dream state. What they choose to do with those obligations is their desicion. If they sleep all day than they lose their jobs, family & friends. They might become ill and leave this life early. Either way they are deciding to do this based on their circumstances.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: phreakyzen]
    #3096259 - 09/05/04 08:22 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

what i am saying if you go out of your way to go to sleep just to practice lucid dreaming is escaping daily life...

Should we not spice up our foods because to do so is making the rest of life bland?

if your life is bland that was your choice in the 1st place...

What exactly are you afraid of, not waking up?
are you kidding???

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3099951 - 09/06/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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what i am saying if you go out of your way to go to sleep just to practice lucid dreaming is escaping daily life...




So your just a public service announcement going through the forums warning people not to do things you think are wrong.

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if your life is bland that was your choice in the 1st place...




Oh course it's your own choice. It's your own choice if you want to sleep all day.

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are you kidding???




Yes I am kidding. I am only responding to you because you sound like one of my high school councilors. I think most people understand that too much of something is usually not good. Lucid dreaming has no side effects that you or I know of. You are basically telling people not to sleep too much and that seems redundant.

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: phreakyzen]
    #3100986 - 09/06/04 09:35 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i didn't say it was wrong you assumed that i was thinking it was wrong

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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: spudamore]
    #3101502 - 09/06/04 11:29 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Lucid dreaming is the shit. If you can do it, you must do it. Just because you aren't interested doesn't mean people shouldn't spend time trying and exploring it. A lucid dream is your own personal universe.

If you don't like the idea of people practicing it and getting to do it as a skill, that's fine. Why should anyone explore thier minds at all? Why trip at all? Performing when you have to sleep anyways is not going out of your way at all. No one said they sleep all day attempting this(even though some of us may).

May everyone dream beautiful lucid dreams!


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: MAGnum]
    #3101508 - 09/06/04 11:31 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

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MAGnum said:
For some reason the brain usually can't put together words in dreams so if words are scrambled. I have read in dreams, however, so it is possible, just not common (you will never read a nevel in a dream). It is a good way to tell you are in a dream that the words are scrambles and congrats on the first lucid dream you ever had.

May it be the begginning of many!
(try sex)




I had a dream I read a book! A page from it is all I can remember!! This is amazing!


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Re: Lucid dreaming - don't do it? learn now for gods sake! [Re: MAGnum]
    #3101908 - 09/07/04 01:53 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

i have done and can do it. but serves me of no real important purpose. it works to much on fantasy and the "what ifs". but if thats your form of entertainment thats up to you.

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