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OfflineSilven
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Casing Questions
    #3086420 - 09/03/04 09:40 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

More questions! :smile:

Anyway, Im inquiring about casing this time.  I am planning on casing a few of my cakes when they are complete, just to get a feel for it.  I figure if I fail, I lose 2 or 3 cakes, and if I don't, I could potentially have a great pay off.

So my question is, in  Casing 101 when he says

Quote:

As a general rule I believe a 1:4 ratio of  casing to substrate depth is used. 




Does he mean what he actually says, or does he mean 1:4 ratio of  substrate to casing ?  I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but from what I've read in other guides and on this site, I thought there should be more casing than substrate.  I'm probably wrong though huh? =P

Also, is verm/coir 60/40 a good casing material for beginners? 
(Note this is my first grow and casing)
(Further note, I will have 24 cakes soon started so 3 lost isn't much)


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Re: Casing Questions [Re: Silven]
    #3086438 - 09/03/04 09:48 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

It should be 1:4 casing to substrate or for each 1" of substrate you use 1/4" of casing.


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Re: Casing Questions [Re: Silven]
    #3086456 - 09/03/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

just plain verm is good for a first casing, you can experiment a little, the difference is minimal. casing 101 is a great pictorial casing tek, thats how I made my first cases and they went great! if theres one tip i have to offer which is: keep the casing layer thin and patch lots of times to alow a nice even myc breakthrough, good luck!


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Re: Casing Questions [Re: aussieone]
    #3086466 - 09/03/04 09:59 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you both for such quick responses!

Will straight verm provide as good of a yield as the verm/coir mixture?


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2) Scorpios are prone to excesses: booze, drugs, sex, bad puns, etc.
They usually exploit the weaknesses of others, who fall victim to
their capacity for total lust & sexual abberation.
3) Scorpios possess great intellectual curiosity & creative talent. They
think they are rebels & are arrogant, proud, conceited, and worth every
penny of it.

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Re: Casing Questions [Re: Silven]
    #3086471 - 09/03/04 10:02 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I used straight verm for my first couple casings then went to 50/50 verm/peat

the straight verm casings took longer to colonize and fruit than did the 50/50

also the 50/50 seemed to colonize more evenly as well as pin more evenly. It could be that by the time i got to doing the 50/50 i was better at keeping the environment just right but it was probably a combination of the two

good luck!


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Re: Casing Questions [Re: KaptainK]
    #3086476 - 09/03/04 10:03 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

further to that -

i dont know if you were going to do this or not but i use the 50/50 on the top as well as the bottom for a "double ended casing" effect.

according to this:

http://www.shroomery.com/index/par/7977

it should work better than verm on the bottom.

:smile:


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Re: Casing Questions [Re: KaptainK]
    #3086480 - 09/03/04 10:07 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

yeah the one thing im noticing on doing 60/40 verm coir mix is how the myc breaks through in a much more even way giving less patching.


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