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    #3082598 - 09/02/04 02:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Miller: I entrust my family's future to Bush



NEW YORK (CNN) -- Sen. Zell Miller, of Georgia, was the keynote speaker Wednesday night at the Republican National Convention. Miller, a Democrat, has broken with his party and sided with President Bush on such issues his handling of the war against terror. Here is a transcript of his remarks:

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Since I last stood...

Thank you very much.

Since I last stood in this spot, a whole new generation of the Miller family has been born: four great-grandchildren. Along with all the other members of our close-knit family, they are my and Shirley's most precious possessions. And I know that's how you feel about your family, also.

Like you, I think of their future, the promises and the perils they will face. Like you, I believe that the next four years will determine what kind of world they will grow up in.

And like you, I ask: Which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family?

The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you tonight. For my family is more important than my party.

There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future, and that man's name is George W. Bush.

>> thats like entrusting a henhouse to a fox...

In the summer of 1940, I was an 8-year-old boy living in a remote little Appalachian valley. Our country was not yet at war, but even we children knew that there were some crazy man across the ocean who would kill us if they could.

President Roosevelt, in a speech that summer, told America, "All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense repealed by an overriding public danger."

In 1940, Wendell Wilkie was the Republican nominee. And there is no better example of someone repealing their "private plans" than this good man.


He gave Roosevelt the critical support he needed for a peacetime draft, an unpopular idea at the time.

And he made it clear that he would rather lose the election than make national security a partisan campaign issue.

Shortly before Wilkie died, he told a friend that if he could write his own epitaph and had to choose between "here lies a president" or "here lies one who contributed to saving freedom," he would prefer the latter.

>> how does one "contribute to saving freedom" by repealing the private lives of individuals??...

Where are such statesmen today? Where is the bipartisanship in this country when we need it most?

>> no lack of bipartisanship when its in the wrong direction...

Today, at the same time young Americans are dying in the sands of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Democrats' manic obsession to bring down our commander in chief.

What has happened to the party I've spent my life working in? I can remember when Democrats believed that it was the duty of America to fight for freedom over tyranny. It was Democratic President Harry Truman who pushed the Red Army out of Iran, who came to the aid of Greece when Communists threatened to overthrow it, who stared down the Soviet blockade of West Berlin by flying in supplies and saving the city.

>> the democrats are fighting for freedom over tyranny..in america..not greece..simply by opposing bush...

Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Democrats and Republicans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter.

But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's Democratic leaders see America as an occupier, not a liberator.

>> millers' idea of "liberators" are the abu ghraib rapists...

And nothing makes this Marine madder than someone calling American troops occupiers rather than liberators.

>> unfortunately..thats exactly what they are in this case...

Tell that to the one-half of Europe that was freed because Franklin Roosevelt led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the lower half of the Korean Peninsula that is free because Dwight Eisenhower commanded an army of liberators, not occupiers.


>> irrelevant...it was a different war at a different time...and later on in the speech..miller faults kerry for "fighting yesterdays' war"...

Tell that to the half a billion men, women and children who are free today from the Poland to Siberia, because Ronald Reagan rebuilt a military of liberators, not occupiers.

>> that army is now occupiers.. and they were never "liberators" in the above sense...and since hes talking about the cold war..it is worth pointing out that "liberation" is the same word the soviets used to justify their own imperialism...and now the neocons are using the same propaganda...

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the freedom and liberty of total strangers than the American soldier.

>> thats debatable.. and definitely not the case in our current adventures...

And, our soldiers don't just give freedom abroad, they preserve it for us here at home.

For it has been said so truthfully that it is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us the freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protester the freedom he abuses to burn that flag.


>> wrong again..its the constitution..not the military..that gives us those freedoms...the purpose of any military is to assert and/or defend national economic interests..not freedom...

No one should dare to even think about being the commander in chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home.

>> no one should dare to believe that...

But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking, America is the problem, not the solution. They don't believe there is any real danger in the world except that which America brings upon itself through our clumsy and misguided foreign policy.

>> i would use the word "aggressive" rather than "clumsy" to describe US foreign policy..but definitely misguided...nor is it true that democrats dont believe there is any real danger in the world today..whether its the terrorists or the neocons...and what could be more warped than to think that the neocons are the solution and not the problem??...

It is not their patriotism, it is their judgment that has been so sorely lacking.

They claimed Carter's pacifism would lead to peace. They were wrong.

They claimed Reagan's defense buildup would lead to war. They were wrong.

And no pair has been more wrong, more loudly, more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.

Together, Kennedy and Kerry have opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that are now winning the war on terror.

Listing all the weapon systems that Senator Kerry tried his best to shut down sounds like an auctioneer selling off our national security.

But Americans need to know the facts.

The B-1 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, dropped 40 percent of the bombs in the first six months of Enduring Freedom.

The B-2 bomber, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered air strikes against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Hussein's command post in Iraq.

The F-14A Tomcats, that Senator Kerry opposed, shot down

Gadhafi's Libyan MiGs over the Gulf of Sidra.

The modernized F-14D, that Senator Kerry opposed, delivered missile strikes against Tora Bora.

The Apache helicopter, that Senator Kerry opposed, took out those Republican Guard tanks in Kuwait in the Gulf War.

The F-15 Eagles, that Senator Kerry opposed, flew cover over our Nation's capital and this very city after 9/11.

I could go on and on and on -- against the Patriot Missile that shot down Saddam Hussein's scud missiles over Israel; against the Aegis air-defense cruiser; against the Strategic Defense Initiative; against the Trident missile, against, against, against.

This is the man who wants to be the commander in chief of our U.S. Armed Forces?

U.S. forces armed with what? Spit balls?


>> theres nothing wrong with opposing spending money on weapons to be used for reckless adventures...we already have such a huge advantage that increasing it further would simply be adding another fire to hell..and definitely not worth ringing up more deficits to do so...

Twenty years of votes can tell you much more about a man than 20 weeks of campaign rhetoric.

Campaign talk tells people who you want them to think you are. How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside.

Senator Kerry has made it clear that he would use military force only if approved by the United Nations.

Kerry would let Paris decide when America needs defending. I want Bush to decide.


>> kerry has expressly stated otherwise...even so..i would still trust paris with that decision much more than bush...

John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security. That's the most dangerous outsourcing of all. This politician wants to be leader of the free world. Free for how long?

>> a "free world" under bush is an oxymoron...even more ludicrous is the idea that alliances constitute a "dangerous outsourcing of national security".. or that the other outsourcing doesnt matter...

For more than 20 years, on every one of the great issues of freedom and security, John Kerry has been more wrong, more weak and more wobbly than any other national figure.

As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military.

As a senator, he voted to weaken our military. And nothing shows that more sadly and more clearly than his vote this year to deny protective armor for our troops in harm's way, far away.

George W. Bush understands that we need new strategies to meet new threats.

John Kerry wants to refight yesterday's war. President Bush believes we have to fight today's war and be ready for tomorrow's challenges. President Bush is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists, no matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under.

George W. Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip.


>> see above...and i for one would argue that the task of rooting terrorists out from their spider holes is better suited to a intelligence/law enforcement based approach...if you choose to disagree..then pls explain how the current policy of waging a series of aggressive wars will accomplish this...the examples of iraq and afghanistan point to the opposite being true...

From John Kerry, they get a "yes/no/maybe" bowl of mush that can only encourage our enemies and confuse our friends.

I first got to know George W. Bush when we served as governors together. I admire this man. I am moved by the respect he shows the first lady, his unabashed love for his parents and his daughters, and the fact that he is unashamed of his belief that God is not indifferent to America.

I can identify with someone who has lived that line in "Amazing Grace" -- "was blind, but now I see." And I like the fact that he's the same man on Saturday night that he is on Sunday morning.

He is not a slick talker but he is a straight shooter. And where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words.

I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel, the man I trust to protect my most precious possession: my family.


>> more religious fundamentalist blather from neocon twits...

This election will change forever the course of history, and that's not any history. It's our family's history.

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The only question is: How? The answer lies with each of us. And like many generations before us, we've got some hard choosing to do. Right now the world just cannot afford an indecisive America. Faint-hearted self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

>> all the neocons care about in this world is the interests of their corporate cronies..and the world can definitely not afford that...

In this hour of danger, our president has had the courage to stand up. And this Democrat is proud to stand up with him.

Thank you.

>> fuck you very much...

God bless this great country. And God bless George W. Bush.

>> dont pray to a god that blesses bush..unless your a satanist...






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http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/01/gop.miller.transcript/index.html


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Re: zell miller [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3083034 - 09/02/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Georgians dont call him zigzag zell for nothing.


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Re: zell miller [Re: Vvellum]
    #3083394 - 09/02/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

They also voted for him for something. Zell Miller has been an elected democrat in each of the last 6 decades. The man made a strong statement to the American people. I have to say that I was quite pleased.


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Re: zell miller [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3083587 - 09/02/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Zell Miller said:

I entrust my family's future to Bush




Put your family where your mouth is. Send 'em to Iraq.







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Re: zell miller [Re: Annapurna1]
    #3083616 - 09/02/04 06:06 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

zell miller came across as an old, angry, bitter, rascist hillbilly. he speech was disgusting because as he was reading off those things kerry voted against, he failed to mention cheney sided with kerry on most of those votes. it was straight up disgraceful. i hope when his time comes its painful, the end of a traitor.


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Re: zell miller [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #3083916 - 09/02/04 07:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

How did race just come up again? You are deluded by blind and malicious hatred.


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Re: zell miller [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3084339 - 09/02/04 09:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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They also voted for him for something. Zell Miller has been an elected democrat in each of the last 6 decades. The man made a strong statement to the American people. I have to say that I was quite pleased.




Yes, he has been elected repeatedly as a liberal. Interesting to note that his "switch" to a quasi-conservative is coming at the end of his political career where he isnt facing re-election in Georgia.

Funny how he's bashing Kerry in this political season but yet earlier he called Kerry ?one of this nation?s authentic heroes, one of this party?s best-known and greatest leaders ? and a good friend." He also said to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution recently, ?In his 16 years in the Senate, John Kerry has fought against government waste and worked hard to bring some accountability to Washington...[Kerry]fought for balanced budgets before it was considered politically correct for Democrats to do so.?

so which is it Zigzag Zell?


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Re: zell miller [Re: Vvellum]
    #3085171 - 09/03/04 12:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Did you see him talking to Chris Matthews after the show?
After getting pissed off at the questions he said "I wish we still lived in the days when you could challenge someone to a duel".

It was pretty funny. The guy seems a bit loony.


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Re: zell miller [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3085441 - 09/03/04 02:06 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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JesusChrist said:
How did race just come up again? You are deluded by blind and malicious hatred.




how about you research zell miller's history you'll know why race came up....poor poor uneducated republican


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Re: zell miller [Re: Phluck]
    #3086469 - 09/03/04 10:00 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Phluck said:
Did you see him talking to Chris Matthews after the show?
After getting pissed off at the questions he said "I wish we still lived in the days when you could challenge someone to a duel".

It was pretty funny. The guy seems a bit loony.




He wasn't pissed off about the questions he was pissed off because Matthews did his usual bullshit and screamed over Miller's answer. You can't even watch the jerk-off because of his stupid shtick. He doesn't let anyone answer the questions he asks. It was a fucking joke. I'm not sure you could answer with a "yes" and get the whole thing in before he starts screaming. A "no" you can probably get in clean.


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    #3086813 - 09/03/04 12:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Great reason to offer to kill someone eh?
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    #3086906 - 09/03/04 12:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Alright then, I challenge thee to a duel!


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    #3087476 - 09/03/04 02:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

OK, I'm game. What'll it be? Oh no wait I get to choose as the challengee. I say rochambeau. I go first


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    #3087606 - 09/03/04 03:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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The guy seems a bit loony.




yeah, he's nutjob. I did benefit from his HOPE Scholarship however - its where the state of Georgia will fully pay for anyones college education so as long as they maintain an A/B average. That's how I got my bachelors. It has been a wildly successful program - hardly an inititative any conservative/rightwinger would support. Funny how the conservatives are now sucking ZigZag Zell's balls but yet they turn a blindeye to the state programs he created/supported as well as his own flipflopping & political opportunism.


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