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OfflineHijinx_Spike
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Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip?
    #3077024 - 09/01/04 07:14 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Can valum really help a bad trip, if so how many mg should a person take?


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Re: Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip? [Re: Hijinx_Spike]
    #3077126 - 09/01/04 08:27 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

"valium" ...

benzo tranks can sorta "take the edge off" of a psychedelically-triggered anxiety attack...

so, maybe, sorta...

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Re: Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip? [Re: Hijinx_Spike]
    #3077171 - 09/01/04 09:01 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, even the act of taking the pill can alone cause some one to settle down enough to feel better. It's weird.


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Re: Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip? [Re: Hijinx_Spike]
    #3077360 - 09/01/04 10:30 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Valium can calm your mind while having a bad trip. Wheather that makes a bad trip good, I can not say.

I find a beer, milk, ice cream, soothing music, conversation with a trusted person, eye contact or physical contact can also help with a bad trip.

I like to avoid benzos... unless they have been perscribed to me. Too many benzo addicted friends...

Reminding myself to, "Move to center and go with the flow." helps me most, but I am a pretty experienced tripper. Beginners may want the mediCation. I prefer mediTation. Also, during bad times, I remind myself the trip will be over soon.

Of course, valium will not lessen the effects of the trip, it will only calm your mind for the duration of the trip. This may seem like it reduces the effects of the trip... but it really doesn't.

People who are taken to a hospital during a bad trip are often given Benzos... this is not to stop the trip. Rather, it serves to calm the tripping patient. Hospitals are not fun places to trip... so trippers are often tranqualized with Benzos until they sleep the trip off. This is why I don't suggest taking people to a hospital for a bad trip. For a while, it will make the bad trip worse. Time always lessens the effects of any trip. If you can sleep it off without a hospital, DO.

A positive mindset, a good setting, thoughtful preparation and a trustworthy trip buddy... THAT is how you are most likely to avoid bad trips completely.

Bad trips ARE bad. But it seems to me... the people who fear bad trips most, have never had one! Don't worry about a bad trip. Be smart. Be prepared.

If you expect a bad trip, you are much more likely to have one. Tripping is what you make of it. It is the ultimate "Choose Your Own Adventure" book.

"Mushrooms show you only what you are ready to see," said Terrance McKenna. I agree. Mushrooms are 99.9% newbie friendly. Trip smart and you will trip happy.


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Re: Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip? [Re: Rose]
    #3080578 - 09/02/04 01:43 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

great post


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Re: Bad Trip + Valum =?Good Trip? [Re: Hijinx_Spike]
    #3080830 - 09/02/04 02:48 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

turn off your mind, relax and flow down stream :wink:


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