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John McCains Speech
    #3074917 - 08/31/04 07:02 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: retread]
    #3074933 - 08/31/04 07:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Michael Moore sure enjoyed it.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: retread]
    #3074990 - 08/31/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I can't find one mention of the innocent victims of our hostile actions in that entire speech.


What about them?


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3074994 - 08/31/04 07:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: Zahid]
    #3075003 - 08/31/04 07:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Zahid said:
Michael Moore sure enjoyed it.




Yeah, I personally would not have indulged his ego.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3075039 - 08/31/04 07:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Oh, well that justifies everything then.

I guess you can justify any action with that.


Steal a can of baked beans from Wal-Mart:can't make an omelet without breaking eggs

Steal a dozen eggs from walmart: can't make an omelet without stealing eggs

Murder a man for $30: "can't make an omelet without breaking eggs!!!"

Rape and murder a 5 year old: "Omlette!!!"

Blow up buildings full of thousands of people: "Eggs!!!"


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3075048 - 08/31/04 07:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Geez man, people that are "innocent" die in every war. Does that make WWII less valuable for the gains that it produced? Show me ONE war where absolutely no innocents died.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3075075 - 08/31/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

You seem to be of the opinion that if there is any chance of an adverse side effect an action should be avoided. This would preclude any construction project, driving over 5 miles an hour, any medical procedure whatsoever, flying an airplane, etc. The list of things you are unwilling to undertake by this rationale is virtually endless. A finely nuanced paralysis.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: retread]
    #3075207 - 08/31/04 08:21 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It's difficult to imagine the bitterness and anger that being kept in a bamboo cage for 8 years by commie gooks must have instilled deep in a corner of John McCains heart. An experience like that sets up an us vs. them mentality that must be very difficult to ever fully break away from.

I think he's a good man. He's a good American. Just like George Bush I think John McCain wants to make America a better place.....but he gives the exact same general rational for fighting terrorists that terrorists give for fighting westerners: god's with us, our values are supreme, it's good vs. evil etc etc etc...Things are so much more complicated. The U.S. has never had some retarted dictator installed by the Saudi Govt so they can import cheaper wheat.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3075346 - 08/31/04 09:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Not chance, innocents will and have died by the thousands.

I'm just saying they should be recognised over the deaths of American military servicemen. He's talking about all the sacrifices we need to make for our special super-duper ideo-diddly-ology, while completely ignoring all the unwilling sacrifices that will be made by our victims.


I think it should be manditory for all public schoolchildren to say a Pledge of Apology every morning before school that is dedicated to all of our victims who die so that we can maintain our current level of safety and comfort.


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: zappaisgod]
    #3076017 - 09/01/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs




Where do you draw the line with your Global Police Pragmatist wetdream?

What if houses were randomly selected by the DEA to be searched for methlabs? Sure, they might find a few methlabs, but at what cost? Where do you draw the line?

I'm sorry, but Pragmatism is bullshit.

oh, and by the way, I think McCain is a pussy who falls right into party line when when his political career demands it. His speech was one step away from giving Bush a blowjob. I thought McCain was a strong independent man...?


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Re: John McCains Speech [Re: Vvellum]
    #3076266 - 09/01/04 01:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I agreee, I usually like McCain, but this speech blew.


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