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OfflineMystiq_Shaman
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Hops
    #3072973 - 08/31/04 09:35 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hi, I was wondering what people around here use hops for. I have only used it to make tea before, where I just have dried the buds and cooked tea on them. So how do you use\prepare your hops ?

3 meter hops plant (pic taken a while ago, not in flowering):

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Re: Hops [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3073489 - 08/31/04 01:27 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

You can graft hops onto a marijuana root stalk, and have hops that produces THC. This is why its hard to find cuttings on the internet.


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Re: Hops [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3074734 - 08/31/04 06:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I thought that was just net gossip..?
Anyway, there are hops growing everywhere around here, in old hedges. I'd also like to know what you people recommend for them...


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Re: Hops [Re: Openminded]
    #3075615 - 08/31/04 11:06 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I have heard this rumor before, I have also heard that stingin nettle (Urtica dioica) can do this too. I dont know, it sounds a little bit unlogical to me.


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Re: Hops [Re: Just_a_Shadow]
    #3075633 - 08/31/04 11:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

>>You can graft hops onto a marijuana root stalk, and have hops that produces THC. This is why its hard to find cuttings on the internet.


This is a myth. THC is produced in the trichomes of the plant, THC is not a cellular material nor is it a plant hormone or conducted in the vascular system.

Nicotine however is producedi n the roots of tobacco plants and one can get detectable nicotine levels in grafts to the tobacco plant, because the nicotine in the roots is transported throughout the vascular system.


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Re: Hops [Re: neuro]
    #3075714 - 08/31/04 11:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Ohh, well that sucks :/ , but good thing it was corrected, well I guess all its good for is making beer or tea, or smoking it I think.


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Re: Hops [Re: neuro]
    #3075953 - 09/01/04 12:19 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

"Nicotine however is producedi n the roots of tobacco plants and one can get detectable nicotine levels in grafts to the tobacco plant, because the nicotine in the roots is transported throughout the vascular system. "

could you then, in theory, graft pot onto a nicotiana and have nicotine in your herb? that wuld solve so many minor setbacks.


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Re: Hops [Re: kadakuda]
    #3076082 - 09/01/04 12:48 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I doubt you could graft the two, but if it were possible, hypothetically, i suspect you'd have nicotine in your post.


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Re: Hops [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3076118 - 09/01/04 12:57 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hops contains Lupalin which is a chemical related to THC (whatever that means). lupalin is the active Chem in the stuff. I have heard it is close to anger horomones too (not sure). I have tried it and the high is lame (to me at least).

It is in the same family as weed.

Hops can be smoked, made into a tea or be brewed as an ingrediant (or strait up made) in beer.


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Re: Hops [Re: neuro]
    #3076181 - 09/01/04 01:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

what, no faith? lol, maybe once i get my tabacoo growing next year ill give it a whirl. nothing to loose, should be fun experiment.

do hops give you any effect raw? that is without making a bear type concoction.


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Re: Hops [Re: kadakuda]
    #3076205 - 09/01/04 01:20 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Never cared enough to make a tea even though i grow it.


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Re: Hops [Re: neuro]
    #3077230 - 09/01/04 09:21 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

What type of effect does the tea or the smoke of hops give? Just curious.


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Re: Hops [Re: filthysock]
    #3077255 - 09/01/04 09:33 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I drink hop tea whenever I cant sleep. If I have smoked cannabis for a while and runs out I often gets a night with no sleep or when I sleep and constant move and wakes up all the time during the night , then a cup of hop tea works wonder.


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Re: Hops [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3085078 - 09/03/04 12:27 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

the ore pollen in the "buds" the better. so be careful not to knock it all out. sedative in nature

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Re: Hops [Re: Mystiq_Shaman]
    #3086856 - 09/03/04 12:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I would make a batch of beer if I were you! I'd love to brew with some fresh hops? although it would be difficult to control the level of bitterness without knowing the strain or alpha acid level.


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Re: Hops [Re: neuro]
    #3091939 - 09/04/04 05:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

It may be possible to graft marijuana budsites onto hops vines.

This would produce an inoccous vine that produces smokeable buds.


Theoretically.


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Re: Hops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3092504 - 09/04/04 09:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

eheh having really strong budds and not have a MJ plant to get arrested for....definatly trying it out, with hemp of course.


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Re: Hops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3092507 - 09/04/04 09:10 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

really strange i came across this subject.night befor last i had an odd dream about people tilling fields apparently under force of some sort of controlling group.at the end of the dream some sort of authority which were just average citizens with the authority to take people into custody were trying to sell something that looked like hops saying it was like cannabis.I drank a guiness before going to bed too.I live in an agricultural area and the college near me has a big ag dept.they grow all sorts of shit mainly corn.about 13 years ago some friends called me up saying they found marijuana growing in the corn fields at the university.we went to check it out .in the middle of one of the corn fields there was a plot of some odd hops plants growing.that did resemble marijuana but was definately some sort of hops .the leaves were more like a cannabis plant and the hops buds were more dense than usual.interesting post has got me really thinking now.


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Re: Hops [Re: RasHelio1]
    #3092642 - 09/04/04 09:50 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Hops is a vine, not a free standing plant.


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Re: Hops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #3094589 - 09/05/04 12:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

That makes it even stranger that you point that out.I clearly remember that the plants were not held by any stake ans that they were free standing.When i first saw the pics of the hops plants above i noticed they were vining.The plants in the corn fields leaves were nearly identical to the plants pictured above but were more slender like cannabis.The berries did hang off the plant the same way though and were nearly identical to what was there.We took some home with us and a friend identified it as hops.But the berries/buds were more dense like marijuana buds.And also the plants in that plot werent there by anyone other than someone from the school.As far as you can see there was corn.but out in the middle out of view of the roads was the plot of the hops in neat rows with equipment surrounding.not intermixed with the corn at all.the entire corn field was and is still irrigated with ground pumps and those automated aerial sprinklers that roll through the fields.Makes me wonder wtf was going on out there.Horticultural experimentation endorsed by the state?weird.The plants stalks were fibrous just like hemp too.


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Re: Hops [Re: RasHelio1]
    #3095749 - 09/05/04 07:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

you sure it wasnt a case of guiness? :tongue:


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Re: Hops [Re: RasHelio1]
    #3095964 - 09/05/04 08:28 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Sure it wasn't kenaf?


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Re: Hops [Re: kadakuda]
    #3096028 - 09/05/04 08:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

lmao .I knew someone was going to say something about that.I had the dream a couple days ago.it was upmteen years ago that we found the hops plants at Fresno State University campus ag fields.I  just thought it funny in my dream there were people tilling fields and someone tried to sell me something that in my dream that looked like hops berries after drinking a guiness then finding this post.Ive never looked into this forum before.But again years ago(not during the dream) we did find some sort of hops that wasn't normal.call ripleys i dont know.Believe it or not.Im super lazy about posting you can tell by my number of posts.Im not runnin my fingers just to bullshit ya. :tongue2:


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Re: Hops [Re: RasHelio1]
    #3096044 - 09/05/04 09:02 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thats weird.  shoulda nabed some in the off chance it was genetic and not trianed.  you can make anythign grow differently.  i have grown creeping fig into an upright standar bonsia, im sure one could do the same with hops.  dunno why tho.


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