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OfflineTomatadunothing
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Best choice for dmt ext.
    #3058653 - 08/27/04 02:56 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

So I got a vendor I really trust that appears to have some great prices. Never done a dmt ext. b4. What do you guys think the best choice would be?

Psychotria viridis
Diplopterys cabrerana
Virola spp (best deal, btw)

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3058760 - 08/27/04 03:26 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

When asking a similar question, I was told by a knowledgeable person here on the boards to look into Virola Theidora.  :cool:

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #3058850 - 08/27/04 03:48 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks. So how have most people's home extractions gone? Do you guys end up with a fairly clean crystaline product?

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3058876 - 08/27/04 03:59 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

That one I can't answer, YET.  :cool:

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3059053 - 08/27/04 04:55 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I'm interested in this too.

I get the picture DMT will prolly be a one week phaser, I don't think its something people like to use often. :frown:


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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3059382 - 08/27/04 06:39 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

none of those, i would recommend MHRB or (IF you can find), mimosa verrucosa and mimosa scabrella rootbark/bark. they are way better (concentration, long ter storage of raw material).
virola contains mostly 5MEO i believe or at least a good percentage.
if i had to choose amongst the ones you mentioned i would stay with psychotria because it has a more clear chemical makeup (i believe in chaliponga there's dmt, 5meo and bufotenine)...


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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: felixhigh]
    #3059585 - 08/27/04 07:27 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i would prefer psychotria over mimosa just cause leaves are easier to pick than roots. but thats just my lazy opinion.


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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: kadakuda]
    #3060773 - 08/28/04 01:26 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

my lazy opinion says that the roots don't need defat, and the leaves do, and we're very unlikely to harvest our own rootbark or perhaps psychotria too...
anyways, for mimosa verrucosa and scabrella the bark is strong enough. the rootbark is even stronger...


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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3060807 - 08/28/04 01:44 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I'd go with mhrb. It's all I've ever used for extraction, and have always been satisfied. Just toss them in a coffee grinder and pulverise. I still defat though. Not sure if it is necessary, but it doesn't hurt.

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: phalloidin]
    #3061152 - 08/28/04 05:03 AM (19 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for all the input. Any pics of final product from extraction? Will one of the popular acid base reactions yield crystals? Just easier to store, hide, and smoke.

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: Tomatadunothing]
    #3061818 - 08/28/04 12:14 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

IF you're up on your chemistry, and follow every single step... yes, you might get crystal... most people's first extract yields a goo though...

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Re: Best choice for dmt ext. [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3062220 - 08/28/04 02:24 PM (19 years, 6 months ago)

I've taken a few very basic chem labs and classes in school, so the lab equiptment won't be completely unfamiliar to me. That doesn't mean I'm not nervous about the potential of wasting a big chunk of change and a sizeable time commitment. Do any of you guys do re-crystalizaton? Anything worth doing is worth doing correctly, right?

What have your biggest downfalls been in the past?

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