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OfflineSamhainJ
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peroxide bubbling on cake?
    #3055573 - 08/26/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

my friend had a cake which looked perfectly healthy but applied peroxide and it started to bubble a lil bit, does this mean it is contam even if there is no signs of contamanation


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3055586 - 08/26/04 11:08 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well when peroxide bubbles when its killing bacteria just like when you pour it on a cut.....


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: cisole]
    #3055598 - 08/26/04 11:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i know that but i wasnt sure if this is a sign of what is to come or if some airborne bacteria could have landed on it?


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3055795 - 08/26/04 11:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

well one thing is for sure, if there was its gone now, but the Mycelium growth is gonna be halted for a few days... was is pure peroxide or diluted with water?


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: cisole]
    #3055828 - 08/26/04 11:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i completly sprayed a cake with peroxidie and it pinned two days later. i only applied the peroxide to the bottom a cake which is covered with pins and a spot bubbled a lil.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3055840 - 08/26/04 11:51 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

What were you thinking????


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: cisole]
    #3055880 - 08/27/04 12:03 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

pure peroxide?!? You could frickin kill someone with pure peroxide, so i hope it was diluted with water =p


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: YahoKa]
    #3055928 - 08/27/04 12:18 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

the only peroxide i can get is 3% h202, and the rest is water. to the best of my knowledge i dont have access to pure peroxide. and applying the 3% solution directly to the cake was reccomended by a very trustworthy and credible person in the shroomery community


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3056463 - 08/27/04 03:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Any organism that contains certain enzymes will cause peroxide to "bubble." In animals, it is an enzyme called catalase. H2O2 is the formula for hydrogen peroxide. The bubbles are oxygen gas. Does it mean that your growth has contamination - no. Could it - yes. The enzyme catalase is one of the most common enzymes in living organism. Do understand this - if there is bubbling, then something has been killed. A common experiment in college (& high school) is seeing this in action with yeast, a fungus. So many funguses do get oxidized by peroxide. If you do not see any discoloration, then it is probably not contaminated. But, error on the same side - throw it away if you haven't already.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: BioMan]
    #3058833 - 08/27/04 05:43 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

I doubt that anyone told you to put 3% peroxide directly onto your cake and if so they were incorrect. The 3% should then be diulted again before using it to spray any myc to a 1:10 ratio of 3%H202 and water. Bubbling has nothing to do with contamination. If you add it directly to grains it will do the same. As bioman said, any living organizim that creates an enzyme to breakdown H202 will cause it to break down into water and oxygen (hence the bubbling). This does NOT mean it killed anything, only that it was broken down by the myc. Your cake isnt contamed if you dont see or smell contams and a fully colonized cake is very resistant to contams.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3059498 - 08/27/04 09:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

oh, i was told to apply it "right out of the bottle" onto the cake.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3061484 - 08/28/04 12:11 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm well I dont know why anyone would tell you to do that to a perfectly healthy cake...next time mist with a solution that I described. More H2O2 can be used but I wouldnt exceed 1:2 ratio 3% H2O2 to water.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: scatmanrav]
    #3062078 - 08/28/04 03:25 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

i thought it had cobweb and he told me to do that. doesnt matter though cuz that cake is covered in fruits now, but i will remember not to do it in the future.


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Re: peroxide bubbling on cake? [Re: SamhainJ]
    #3063282 - 08/28/04 10:05 PM (12 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah generally it wont kill myc, only stunt it a bunch, but if you use enough it will..glad to hear all is good though  :thumbup:


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