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What the Bleep Do We Know?
    #3054683 - 08/26/04 08:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Anyone seen this movie? It's about quantum physics. I saw it the other day, and I was rather impressed by it. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about quantum physics to give a decent review of its accuracy. I was wondering if someone here does know enough about quantum physics to say what in that movie is legitimate and what is bullshit. Some of the stuff seemed a little far-fetched for me, but I figure I don't have enough knowledge of quantum physics to make that call.


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3054719 - 08/26/04 08:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Did you see it in the theatre? Or is there a torrent out there for it yet? This looks like an AWESOME flick!

Some of the stuff seemed a little far-fetched for me

Yep...sounds like quantum mechanics! Most of it is so wildly counter-intuitive that most people, upon first learning these ideas, are left thinking "what the fuck?" :smirk:


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: trendal]
    #3054814 - 08/26/04 08:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I have some prior knowledge of quantum physics/mechanics, and at least some of the stuff in that movie is stuff I heard before, such as reality being dependant on the observer and electrons travelling between parallel dimensions, but there was some stuff that seemed questionable, and some of it sounded more like a discussion of religion and philosophy than like science. For example, the people in the movie talked about God as if the existence of such an entity were a foregone conclusion. The most outlandish thing I heard in that movie was when someone said that if you absolutely believed with every aspect of your being that you could walk on water, then you could.


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3054836 - 08/26/04 08:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well, yes, those are rather outlandish ideas :smirk:

Still looks like an interesting flick!


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: trendal]
    #3055115 - 08/26/04 09:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

There was also something in the movie about how when Columbus's ships approached the shores of the Americas, the natives were only able to see the ripples in the water and not the ships themselves. They say this was not because the ships were out that far, but because there was nothing in their reality which could accommodate for the existence of these foreign vessels, so their brains would not allow them to see them.


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3055901 - 08/27/04 12:10 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

The nearest one playing near me is in park city which is waayy the hell out there. Damn I like these creepy movies and I want to see it.


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3056025 - 08/27/04 12:57 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't appear to be showing close to me. Did it talk about quantum entanglement? Very trippy stuff. Stanford has some interesting material that may help you wrestle with the movie's accuracy.

http://plato.stanford.edu/contents.html#q


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3056168 - 08/27/04 01:43 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It looks like a very interesting movie. I hope it shows around these parts, although I'm not holding my breath...


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3056975 - 08/27/04 07:13 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

someone find a torrent link


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3057269 - 08/27/04 10:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Well, I have some prior knowledge of quantum physics/mechanics, and at least some of the stuff in that movie is stuff I heard before, such as reality being dependant on the observer and electrons travelling between parallel dimensions, but there was some stuff that seemed questionable, and some of it sounded more like a discussion of religion and philosophy than like science. For example, the people in the movie talked about God as if the existence of such an entity were a foregone conclusion. The most outlandish thing I heard in that movie was when someone said that if you absolutely believed with every aspect of your being that you could walk on water, then you could.




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There was also something in the movie about how when Columbus's ships approached the shores of the Americas, the natives were only able to see the ripples in the water and not the ships themselves. They say this was not because the ships were out that far, but because there was nothing in their reality which could accommodate for the existence of these foreign vessels, so their brains would not allow them to see them.





I must meet the people who made this flick. Sounds like a combination of Crowleyism and Jung's collective unconscious/consensus reality, which is a philosophy I was taught by a guru of sorts when I was 19 years old. This guru was trying to figure out a way to contain black holes for the purpose of energy generation, but he stopped working on the problem a long time ago and never told me why.


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Re: What the Bleep Do We Know? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3076073 - 09/01/04 12:47 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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There was also something in the movie about how when Columbus's ships approached the shores of the Americas, the natives were only able to see the ripples in the water and not the ships themselves. They say this was not because the ships were out that far, but because there was nothing in their reality which could accommodate for the existence of these foreign vessels, so their brains would not allow them to see them.




That was definately a very stupid element of this movie. I don't know if it was intended to be a dumbed down analogy or what but it doesn't work. That's like saying that if I encountered a species of animal in the wild I never knew existed or never had any conception of, it woul be invisible to me, like The Predator or some shit.

Also, the part with the purple globule hormone people dancing around for 20 minutes got pretty annoying. There was no real cohesion to the movie, just a lot of random people's quips. I for one got sick of hearing from "'Ramtha' as channeled by J.Z. Knight".


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