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Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible?
    #3051905 - 08/26/04 04:50 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I wanted to grow some pint jars inside. However, I later decided security is my top priority. Thus ive decided to undergo this endevure.

My plan is to take my jars and place them in a 2 gallon bucket with a lid. They will be left outdoors from innoculation to full colonization.

Im thinking ill need to drill some holes for air exhange as the jars need to breath somewhat. Im unsure how to accomplish this without allowing light to hit the jars. Id place the holes on the sides because that way they wouldnt allow rain to settle/seep in and would probably allow better airflow than the bottom. I thought about polyfill, but im not sure if light can penetrate through it or not.

Varying temperatures are another conern. Temps average in my area around 80 for the high and 60 for the low. I do not believe the natural "cold shocking" will stall growth and initiate pinning. I thought I heard low concentrations of C02 and light are also necessary. I am not positive about this and need someone to confirm this.

Those are the only major things i think i have to worry about. I'd love to get your input and any ideas to better my chances of success.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3052305 - 08/26/04 09:08 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Those temps sound ok, but it will take a lot longer than steady temps.
Also set up the bucket first, and put a thermometer in tthere to check temps dont get too high, to high is worse that too low.
For air exchange, use pollly filler filter wool poked into the holes you make to stop and bugs getting in.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: Loki]
    #3054041 - 08/26/04 05:18 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

How high is too high? I think i heard it dies at 106 degrees.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3054075 - 08/26/04 05:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

80 degrees is good


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: RetardedChemist]
    #3054378 - 08/26/04 06:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

So you guys think this will work? How much longer will it take? Twice as long would be acceptable.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3054390 - 08/26/04 07:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

at least twice as long... colonize indoors and fruit outdoors if you gotsta


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: george castanza]
    #3054628 - 08/26/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Fruiting outdoors eh. Ive thought about that as well, but I felt that fruiting isnt as controlable outdoors. Would yields be just as good outdoors as indoors? Given the same ammount of substrate ofcourse.

I was also afraid that I wouldnt be able to tell if the substrate was contaminated outdoors and might be poisoned or even worse have a similar looking poisonous mushroom pop up in my garden! I came to the conclusion that I am less likely to die if I fruit indoors.

What do you think?




Can I colonize karo jars outdoors also?


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3055185 - 08/26/04 09:24 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Instead of placing it in a 5 gallon bucket, would it not be a more stable temp if you burried the jars.

Concerns
Air exchange is probably poorer
It would not be advisable or practical to dig the jars up everyday(good and bad)

I would find the right depth for your temp range, drop the jars in their and wait 1 to 2 weeks. Hopefully with a lot of luck and some praying when you dig up the jar will be fully colonized and ready for fruiting.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3055527 - 08/26/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Dig a hole throw a small rubbermaid in there ( below ground level ), put the cover on it, throw something over the area that fits it's surroundings but conveniently conceals the box. put it in a spot where people can't see you check it (behind garage/house). you could even bury a 2 rubbermaid incubator set-up with a submergable heater just to make sure she doesn't get cold. For air cobble up an elbow of Pvc that would stick out of the ground. Put a bend in the top so it points down and won't get rain in it- throw some mesh over the hole to keep pests out. Paint it or conceal it as desired.

Pretty simple... just depends on how motivated you are!


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3055618 - 08/26/04 11:13 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

hell yeah,
be creative man, run an electical cord under ground to your spot so you can have the aquarium heater. Make sure you put a vent tube sticking out of the ground to get some fresh air. I think underground mycology is the field I am going to go into in college. Imagine the possibillities


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: rezzan1]
    #3055752 - 08/26/04 11:36 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Now that's what I like to see!
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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3059009 - 08/27/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

All I want to know is, is it possible to FUBAR my jars outside? If so, how?


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3059141 - 08/27/04 07:21 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah, just maintain parameters for growing. If you can do that in a sterile way, than thier should be no problem growing shrooms outside. If you can not give them what they need then it is a fruitless act.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: NOS4A2]
    #3059155 - 08/27/04 07:26 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

when you grow indoors, you create ideal growing conditions and support one lifeform against all others. when you cultivate outdoors, you introduce hungry spawn to new food and trust nature to even things out - the competitor lifeforms will have to be happy with your castoff nutrients.

so yeah, sterilise stuff in jars, then leave the jars to (with filtered lids) colonise outdoors. when thy're done, add them to raw materials, and watch nature do her thing :thumbup:


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3059347 - 08/27/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

A cow pie in nature (in Florida temps) takes up to a couple months to colonize, so outdoor colonization will most likely be slower. Concerning growing outdoors.. I'ts awesome! If you have some weed mushroom growing in your yard or something then make sure you can tell the difference, other than that a hay and horse poo patch is in my opinion the best way to grow for non myco-gurus. Contams are not an issue as discussed in the FAQ by MoeHoward, where he explains how UV radiation from the sun keeps all the nasty indoor molds from surviving outdoors. If security is an issue I'd say colonize indoors to get them done as quick as possible then plant outdoors since you are not responsible for random :wink: patches of mushrooms developing.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: dubt]
    #3066259 - 08/29/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I plan on innoculating the pints with 1 cc of liquid mycellium to help it go faster. I need more input. Im still stuck on whether or not I should do this.


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Re: Colonizing jars outdoors...Possible? [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3066544 - 08/29/04 09:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:frown:


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