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OfflineJingles
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Casing with compost
    #3049759 - 08/25/04 08:00 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I recently tried casing with the Thailand Koh's with moderate results.

For the jars I used a combination of Vermiculite and brown rice flour (pretty standard). When the jars were fully colonized I cased them with a mixture of vermiculite and peat moss. The first flush was fantastic, the second flush was weak.

I had just recieved a bag of the dehydrated compost from Mycosupply. I want to try growing the Thailand Koh's on the compost, but I'm not sure if I quite grasp exactly how to do it.

Here's the question: Would I still grow the mycelium on Vermiculite and brown rice flour in the jars, then case them with the compost and nothing else? If not, what else is needed?


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: Jingles]
    #3050400 - 08/25/04 10:27 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Every time I have used a casing material that is full of nutrition ( Compost) I have serious contm. problenms after the first flush

I would stick to the know casings ( verm, jiffymix,etc..) and not Compost

Compost will not work very good as a casing material


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3050811 - 08/25/04 11:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Hell, I'd try the poo, that stuff looks cool. I think you weigh it out and add around 10X as much water by weight. Or just add water until the shit feels right. Yum!

Anyway, pm Lana at mycosupply if you want help. I'm sure she knows her shit.


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: Jingles]
    #3050840 - 08/26/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Jingles said:

Here's the question: Would I still grow the mycelium on Vermiculite and brown rice flour in the jars, then case them with the compost and nothing else? If not, what else is needed?



#1 question... Yes or do grains
If you case with a nitrient rich soil or poo you have to let it colonise just like you do in your jars ...
Then its best to case with a non-nutrient material like verm/coir
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Re: Casing with compost [Re: Jingles]
    #3051873 - 08/26/04 04:33 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Compost makes a good substrate but a poor casing.


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: dog]
    #3051900 - 08/26/04 04:47 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i second dog


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: sillysimon]
    #3052337 - 08/26/04 09:25 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Ahoy, the only time i cased with compost it took forever to colonize the shit then after it was almost there we got a new friend - green mold


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Re: Casing with compost [Re: Jingles]
    #3052707 - 08/26/04 11:49 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds to me like some people mix up what casing is with initiating a spawn run.

When you take spawn (colonized grain or verm/brf) and break it up and mix it with a pasteurized nutritive substrate (poo, straw, compost, etc) you are initiating a spawn run for a bulk technique. This is fine, but you don't want to expose it to the elements quite yet. You want to keep it sealed/wrapped and let that colonize fully. I used simple poly wrap I got at Home Depot for like $3 a giant roll.

Once you have a fully colonized block of substrate you THEN case with a moistened non-nutritive material like vermiculite/coir, etc.

A casing is not there to provide food for the mycelium... it is there to provide moisture so that your casing will provide more/more even flushes


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