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Reefer
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Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!!
#3046763 - 08/24/04 11:22 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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i have never tripped before. i just aquired 1 full oz of fly agaric or amanita muscaria. the plan was this weekend (today being tuesday) for me and two friends to try it for the first time. i am a little nervous. i have been wanting to try them for a long time now. i was wondering if you all have any advice for a first time tripper. anything from precautions to take, amounts, what to expect and wat not to expect, ect. Also what DANGERS there are! any information would be very much appreciated. please get back to me ASAP!!! U can also email me if u want- Reefer8869@yahoo.com is my email
Edited by Reefer (08/24/04 11:29 PM)
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046775 - 08/24/04 11:25 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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those aren't psilocybes, they will produce an entheogenic expiriance, but it is very intense, it is a "death and rebirth" expiriance.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046779 - 08/24/04 11:26 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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www.erowid.org
btw it's Amanita Muscaria
alot of people are probably going to reply saying it is worthless or whatever, it's not worthless, just not recreational.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046780 - 08/24/04 11:26 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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which means in laemans terms? (sorry newb lol)
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046793 - 08/24/04 11:30 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml
^ those are the mushrooms that are refered to as "magic mushrooms", in low to mid doses they are pretty recreational actually. Like an intensely high feeling with some visuals and such.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046798 - 08/24/04 11:31 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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You have these: http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml
those are a very powerful entheogen, not something to be taken for fun for sure.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046801 - 08/24/04 11:32 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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hmmmm visuals are wat i was going for. How much should i take for my first time? by the way these are fresh not dried.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046804 - 08/24/04 11:32 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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these are dried shrooms:
(not mine)
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046812 - 08/24/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya i have a 1 once cap. fresh
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046815 - 08/24/04 11:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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trust me, save the amanita's for whne your more expirianced, go and find some psilocybie cubensis, and take 2 grams of those.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046817 - 08/24/04 11:35 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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you have the wrong mushroom for what you want.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046819 - 08/24/04 11:36 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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so what will happen if i take them?
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046823 - 08/24/04 11:37 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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-------------------- Got a question about a substance? Erowid might already have your answer! Have questions about the mushroom experience? The Tripper's FAQ may have your answer or someone else might have had your question before. I know up on the top you are seeing great sights, but down at the bottom we, too, should have rights. - Theodor Seuss Geisel Dr. Suess "I didn't come here to be easily understood" - Steve
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046824 - 08/24/04 11:38 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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if you take that cap fresh, you will be sicker than you have ever been
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046830 - 08/24/04 11:39 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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under wat link?
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046839 - 08/24/04 11:41 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/amanitas/amanitas.shtml this is what you have, it is active, but not recreational, and not what you want right now
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms.shtml these are what you wanr
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: gdman]
#3046874 - 08/24/04 11:49 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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im not questioning your knowledge mearly trying to make a decision. my buddy is the one who picked these shrooms and took the exact ones a while bak. he tripped for a long while and swears a tree shot off like a rocket. he felt no sickness, and mearly tells me not to take over 5 grams or i will regret it. he got them from up in the mountains somewhere lol he wont tell me where. are u sure that i will get sick and they wont have the type of effect that i am looking for?
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046886 - 08/24/04 11:51 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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i was only planning on taking about 2-3 grams would that still be bad?
Edited by Reefer (08/24/04 11:52 PM)
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046922 - 08/24/04 11:57 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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they are fly agaric-red (amanita muscaria var. muscaria) according to the site u gave me.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3046985 - 08/25/04 12:09 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would NOT take those. AT least, until you really know what you're doing. Simply eating those will cause extreme sickness, bad reactions, possible hospitilization (sp? duh hehe).
You want psilocybin mushrooms, such as psilocybe cubensis.
those mushrooms are used by much more experienced people (well, some), and have to be specially prepared.
Plus, unless your friend is a very experienced mushroom hunter, I would not trust his picking of those. There are many look-alike species of mushrooms, and many species of amanita's are VERY poisonous, many of which can kill you if you eat them.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: myndreach]
#3047010 - 08/25/04 12:15 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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thank you but his dad who helped him actually is a very experienced mushroom picker. i would love too hear anyone elses views on the subject i need alot of advice on the subject. any help would be very much appreciated
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3047323 - 08/25/04 01:59 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Reefer said: thank you but his dad who helped him actually is a very experienced mushroom picker. i would love too hear anyone elses views on the subject i need alot of advice on the subject. any help would be very much appreciated
You want more advice?
Listen to what everybody else is telling you. Save this one for when you're (much) more experienced.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3048093 - 08/25/04 10:31 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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More advice? Okay, assuming they are amanita muscaria (fly agaric), they are a VERY intense trip, that is wholly unlike traditional psilocybin mushrooms.
On top of this, they must be prepared very specifically and ingested in a certain way, otherwise you will be puking your guts out, with a horrid running nose, and a possible fever, all the while tripping your balls off. No fun...talk about a bad trip.
Make sure to really really really check into exactly what your doing before doing it. Using these substances from nature rashly and just to "get off", to me, is simply silly. Sure, it's fun to take a threshold dose of psilocybin from time to time, but to me that's not really what their main purpose is.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: myndreach]
#3048150 - 08/25/04 10:48 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldnt dare touch those amanita muscaria.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3048450 - 08/25/04 12:11 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Am I the only one who suggests this is someone just playing around trying to post silly stuff? The whole ignoring the advice and posting a random answer like his friends dad is experienced is suspicious troll activity.
I apologize if I'm wrong reefer but what you're proposing to do is extremely stupid and will likely land you in a very regretful situation (whether it is in th hospital, in a bad trip etc)
Myndreach is absolutely correct in what he says. Listen to what he says, I know you have zero intention of reading the resource he has given you so just take our word for it.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: utopianglory]
#3049535 - 08/25/04 05:17 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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well actually you are wrong. my friends dad that i talked about is the one who did them with my friend, lol and actually i consider him a hippy.
all the articles that i have read suggest that these would be ok to take in low dosages and i was going to have my friend prepare them as it says on this site, which he has done before.
believe me im not ignoring advice i looked at all of the articles that u have given me and have read many independantly before i even thought about taking these.
would it still be bad to take them in low dosages and if they are properly prepared?
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3052151 - 08/26/04 05:44 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay, I don't know what else to say. You go on a 3 paragraph diatribe saying we are wrong and that the amanita's will be prepared correctly and will be taken in a low dose, so it is okay. Then you ask if taking it in a low dose is okay. I'm thoroughly convinced you are just trolling at this point, but I guess I could be wrong. You ask a question, and when we give you an answer, you tell us what we are saying ins't necissarily true, and then ask basically the same question over again...??? Sure, go ahead, take them. You'll see god, become enlightened, become immortal, ad naseum... Or don't take them as they will most likely not be very fun. Just my opinion though.
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he felt no sickness, and mearly tells me not to take over 5 grams or i will regret it.
You are confused, and this is the proof. Five grams or about that is a huge dose for psilocybe mushrooms, and 5g is the generally known "trip balls" dose for psilocybe, not amanitas. If your friend said 5 grams is a monstrous dose, he was definately talking about psilocybe, and not amanitas, which require a higher weight, as far as I know.
Edited by myndreach (08/26/04 05:48 AM)
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: myndreach]
#3053065 - 08/26/04 11:14 AM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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this has bad idea written all over it.
LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE> DONT EAT IT.
its very obvious that you dont know what your doing. listen to these people.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: Reefer]
#3058350 - 08/27/04 01:34 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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You will regret it. You will take them, most likely get the unwanted side effects, and you'll never want to touch psychedelics again.
Do yourself a favor and wait.
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Re: Guys i need some help PLZZZ!!!!! [Re: keepontruckin]
#3065661 - 08/29/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 6 months ago) |
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As all of these people have said... don't eat them. You very obviously have no idea what they'll do to you.
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