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Offlinepsillyguy
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Why do my cakes always stall once birthed?
    #3039458 - 08/23/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Tried several strains now, currently B+. I have the process of making the cakes down to an art, it seems. However, I've tried several fruiting chambers, all seem to be rather unsuccessful. I can't seem to ever harvest more than, perhaps one trip. They come real small, drop their spores real early, the cakes get even fuzzier with white, and production stops.

The current chamber is just a rubermaid container (translucent, with large square cut out of top, filled with clear plastic) with about an inch of wet perlite at the bottom, cake elevated above it. It gets fanned about twice a day, and gets indirect sunlight. Stays around 75 degrees F in the room.

Is it too humid in the chamber?? They are BRF/Vermiculate cakes that colonized great, production just keeps stalling once birthed.
Thanks!!


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3039470 - 08/23/04 02:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

there seems to be a lot of the B+ thing going around.... I had the same problem with mine but it was due to impatience, i birthed the cakes way to soon, wich in turn by the time they started pinning they were almost completely dry... did you wait to birth the cakes when you started to see pins on the cake?


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3039635 - 08/23/04 03:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds more like you don't have enough moisture, actually. Are you running bubblers under that perlite?


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3039719 - 08/23/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Try fanning more...like 6-7 times a day.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3039742 - 08/23/04 03:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Let them get pins in the jars before birthing. Pins form in the same amount of time whether they are in jar, or in tub; there is no accelleration due to early birthing.

Your's are probubly too dry. They start drying out the moment they are removed from the jar. Unless they are in a 100% humidity environment, then moisture content stays the same.


You don't need to fan much, once or twice a day is plenty; any more and you are just net exporting moisture as you remove the humid air when you fan.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: meanoldman]
    #3039752 - 08/23/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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meanoldman said:

You don't need to fan much, once or twice a day is plenty; any more and you are just net exporting moisture as you remove the humid air when you fan.




But what about built up Co2 levels....?


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
    #3039773 - 08/23/04 03:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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But what about built up Co2 levels....?




Use a bubbler or humidifier rig, no worries about build-up.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: DrOuD]
    #3039804 - 08/23/04 03:50 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

True! :thumbup:


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3040075 - 08/23/04 05:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i am a newbie but i will give it a shot(if im wrong someone please correct me)sounds like you may have dried cakes as everyone states.i would recommend putting cakes directly in
in the perlite(if this is a problem right this second).also based upon my expeiences i have direct light on them 12 hrs a day(75w flood light in desk lamp)which alot of people think is not neccesary,i have several cakes in my terrarium who do not get this direct light.these cakes have not gotten to half the size as the direct lighted ones,in 3 flushes now.jim


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3040687 - 08/23/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Start dunking you cakes B4 birthing.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: niteowl]
    #3041038 - 08/23/04 09:40 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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niteowl said:
Start dunking you cakes B4 birthing.




Thats the way, From my first birth my cakes were a little dry, got shitty little shrooms.  Next time I dunked and had on 2 of my cakes so far 7 inch monster weigh 45g (per cake) with 2 or 3 little 10 - 15 g ones.. So big the cake was in the air and the shroom on the ground when i bumped the FC :lol: I what atleast 5-7 days after full colonization then birth pins or no pins.  Use the triggers Cold Shock/Light/FAE.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3041681 - 08/23/04 11:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

try drilling a 1/2inch hole on the side of the chamber 1 inch above the bottom. The c02 will fall out of this opening


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3041874 - 08/24/04 12:31 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Drilling polyfil stuffed holes does work very slick reguardless if people think the CO2 won't build up (it will saturate) sure it gets dispersed but levels are still higher than optimum by a margin. IMHO Holes are best drilled slightly above your perlite/hydroton level this way CO2 will always be pushed out perfectly. Now this is just my personal preference from my point of view, I fan anyway. Like JaRRn said Use the triggers Temp drop/Light/FAE.


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Re: Why do my cakes always stall once birthed? [Re: psillyguy]
    #3041920 - 08/24/04 12:40 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

are you staring at them?  mushies like a lot of private time, and they seem to enjoy a lot of humidity! I even met a few that enjoy the light. And some cakes even want to take a long cold bath! I hope your cakes fruit and you will be a proud paw paw.

:goodluck: :goodluck: :goodluck:


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