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YahoKa
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Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins?
#3027827 - 08/20/04 09:11 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm a newb, so as always, bare with me =)
Out of 9 cakes, 3 are already colonized with mycelium. They are still in the dark, and have not pinned. The cakes have shrunk quite a lot after being colonized with mycelium, so I think they have perhaps lost water. I want some opinions on whether I should dunk the cake and then birth it (exposing to light, no cold shocking), or if I should expose them to light in the jars to initiate pinning.
Also, anyone have a link to a dunk tek - i've read them before but now I can't find a link to one, and the search turns up nothin.
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meanoldman
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: YahoKa]
#3028008 - 08/20/04 10:05 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Let them get some light and pin out before birthing. The original PF TEK says to do that, and I agree. I always let PF cakes get pins prior to birthing, and I get great results. Since you are new at this, fewer things can be muffed up if you let em pin before removing. Try dunk & roll after you get the regular TEK down a few times, not this time.
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: YahoKa]
#3028047 - 08/20/04 10:18 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree with mean.......but if the cakes are dry as a rock you may wanna dunkem.......heres a link. http://www.mycotopia.net/site/article.php?13.255 Hippy3's Tek...its off site but a simple explantion
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Mad_Hatter2004
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: YahoKa]
#3028179 - 08/20/04 10:53 AM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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YahoKa said: I'm a newb, so as always, bare with me =)
Out of 9 cakes, 3 are already colonized with mycelium. They are still in the dark, and have not pinned. The cakes have shrunk quite a lot after being colonized with mycelium, so I think they have perhaps lost water. I want some opinions on whether I should dunk the cake and then birth it (exposing to light, no cold shocking), or if I should expose them to light in the jars to initiate pinning?
I was wondering that too!
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Meanoldman said:
Let them get some light and pin out before birthing. The original PF TEK says to do that, and I agree. I always let PF cakes get pins prior to birthing, and I get great results. Since you are new at this, fewer things can be muffed up if you let em pin before removing. Try dunk & roll after you get the regular TEK down a few times, not this time.
Should the temp be dropped some to help initiate the invitro pinning or can they stay around incubating temp? (82f)
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george castanza
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: YahoKa]
#3028386 - 08/20/04 12:04 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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dude, dunk,roll, and spray. no need to wait on invitro's check this out,if you haven't already so says kramer
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meanoldman
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: Mad_Hatter2004]
#3028432 - 08/20/04 12:15 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Should the temp be dropped some to help initiate the invitro pinning or can they stay around incubating temp? (82f)
I don't use an incubator. Room temps work fine, at least the room temps at my place. Let them cool down at night, mid to low 60's (at night only) is perfect in my experience for pin sets.
Shrinkage is 100% normal, it always happens to some degree. Nothing to be worried about.
You don't need to add any water (dunk) as the cakes still have all the water they started with. They don't lose water until they come out of the jars and start fruiting. After the first flush, they'll want to be rehydrated. Seriously, let them cool down at night, get some pins, then birth them. Don't try to add water to the cakes directly until after the first flush. If you do that, you will get good results this time. Next time play with the variables and see what happens.
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4hodmt
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: YahoKa]
#3028633 - 08/20/04 01:23 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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welll just 5 minutes ago i took off the top layer of verm from my cake and filled it up whilew in the jar with water that had 1/175th bleach. im dunking for about 10 hours, then birthing it. but im going to be casing mine.you could dunk while there are pins invitro or before. cold shocking will hoever make the cake pin earlier.
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meanoldman
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: 4hodmt]
#3028832 - 08/20/04 02:26 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does that method work very well for you, consistantly?
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Re: Dunk and Birth, or wait for invitro pins? [Re: 4hodmt]
#3029607 - 08/20/04 05:54 PM (20 years, 1 month ago) |
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huh? why bleach? it is found in most big city taps already......i live where the water is spring fed.......10 hrs? how does that work for ya?
peace
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