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shaman2b
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: boeha]
#3032356 - 08/21/04 11:48 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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boeha said: -> Yeah, but you can give advice on what would be happy music...
That's why I said, "PERSONALLY, I FIND" rather than making a general statement.
Your point is well-taken, but then you go and make recommendations too.... which brings us back to my point, that it's a personal choice.
Not trying to flame you. I suspect that our little back-and-forth here should be a good lesson for our neophyte tripper.
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boeha
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: shaman2b]
#3032440 - 08/21/04 12:12 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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shaman2b said:
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boeha said: -> Yeah, but you can give advice on what would be happy music...
That's why I said, "PERSONALLY, I FIND" rather than making a general statement.
Your point is well-taken, but then you go and make recommendations too.... which brings us back to my point, that it's a personal choice.
Not trying to flame you. I suspect that our little back-and-forth here should be a good lesson for our neophyte tripper.
Yeah, but just because music is something very subjective doesn't mean you can't throw in some recommendations! I really feel confident that most people will like the songs I posted; because they're very soft, gentle and enjoyable.
I realize that everything is relative; but to me, there's absolutely nothing wrong with trying to convince somebody to listen to music you personally like. ( let's be honest; how did YOU start taking drugs? Because someone else made it clear that you can get great effects from them. Influencing someones opinion isn't always a bad thing. )
And you could even flame me, call me names; I'd still be friendly
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shaman2b
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: boeha]
#3032549 - 08/21/04 12:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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No worries, mate. You're right -- wanting others to enjoy "our" music is not a bad thing! And it's clear that we all want kubix to have a great time.... It's all good.
BTW, I've got your music suggestions on my "to test" list. Research, ya know.
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Zoso_UK
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: shaman2b]
#3032571 - 08/21/04 12:55 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Led Zeppelin is my security blanket when I'm on mushrooms. Whenever I feel like a bad trip is coming it takes it away. Everyone should find a safety blanket for shrooms if they don't already
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boeha
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: Zoso_UK]
#3032585 - 08/21/04 01:00 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Zoso_UK said: Led Zeppelin is my security blanket when I'm on mushrooms. Whenever I feel like a bad trip is coming it takes it away. Everyone should find a safety blanket for shrooms if they don't already
My security blanket is a movie : Fear and loathing in Las Vegas...
( but I like the movie so much, I almost always wanna watch it anyway: it's a WIN-WIN situation )
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Strumpling
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: boeha]
#3034241 - 08/21/04 08:18 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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movies distract myself from myself too much.. I mean i love watching movies on psychedelics but I find that I rarely get as much out of a trip if I'm zoned into a screen
-------------------- Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me. In addition: SHPONGLE
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nickelpenny
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: Strumpling]
#3034890 - 08/21/04 11:57 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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kubix..
There is absolutely nothing to worry about. I cant see anyone having a bad trip off 1 or 2 grams. It just doesnt take over that strongly to scare the shit out of you imo.
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TheHateCamel
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experiences [Re: kubix]
#3037795 - 08/22/04 09:14 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I read your post and none of the responses.
Eat the mushrooms, two grams or three grams is a dicent dose for you first time, you can get a feel for what it's about and still be able to function.
When you do finally start to trip you will laugh at how concerned you were about it. It is so natrual and so beautiful that you will just want to let everyone know everything is going just how it should be, perfectly.
You should eat them on a day that is sunny and warm in a grassy field with a blanket to lay on. Eat them with a good friend and take plenty of food and water to keep your evenrgy up. Go where there are not many people and just relax.
There is nothing to worry about at all. It is not some super intense wild visual mind fuck. It is just a lightness and a feeling of perfect understanding, you are going to laugh when you realize what you have been so concerned about doesn't even exist.
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kubix
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experiences [Re: kubix]
#3039959 - 08/23/04 02:25 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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1-2 grams probably would mnake me reach which trip level? Also, i'm selecting a decent landscape, even though I don't live in an exotic area of Brazil, there are some interesting spots.
About the soundtrack, I am selecting primarly The Beatles (Revolver is by far my favourite album from them, and its sooo psychedelic also) Led Zeppelin (my favourite band together with the Beatles), Stravinsky, Gershwin, Tchaikovsky, Mussogoursky (i'm a lover of classical music but i'm taking a lot of care to not pick melancolic or sad stuff, and i'm having a hard time)...the rest is till undefined
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TheHateCamel
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experiences [Re: kubix]
#3040057 - 08/23/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eat two grams at the very least. Classical music is the best when you are tripping. Have fun.
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boeha
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experiences [Re: kubix]
#3040065 - 08/23/04 03:07 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well; 1-2 grams will only give you a level 1-2 trip I guess, but considering it's your first time, a level 3 is definately possible.
And if you choose that set and setting, it probably will be a great experience.
Nice soundtrack too!
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Zoso_UK
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: boeha]
#3040264 - 08/23/04 04:28 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Kubix, amazing musical taste! I would say go outdoors in a nice area where you won't be hassled, with a portable music player, and take 2g. No more, no less. I did 3g the night before last and had a level 4 trip. You need to know your own sensitivity before you experiment with higher dosages. Better to be safe than sorry. Good luck PS It might seem strange but Dazed and Confused is one of my favourite Zep tracks when on shrooms... so many things on shrooms aren't what you'd expect them to be Let me know if you listen to the Beatles how it works out for you cos I haven't tried them yet (don't know why).
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Strumpling
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: kubix]
#3042373 - 08/24/04 12:45 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have personal opinions on a couple of your comments.... make of them what you will: "I can even change its course." at good enough doses, from my personal experience (which is as useful and at the same time as useless as anybody else's), you cannot - the more you try to change it, the more it will hammer into you whatever it is you are trying to avoid. "I dont think I wil lack judgement." well I sould suggest you expect to lack judgement anyway because its always a possibility and if you are expecting to "not lack judgement" then you may do something stupid thinking you know what you are doing, because "I will not lack judgement." "I know with what im dealing with" No you don't. It doesn't matter how many times one shrooms, IMO - we don't know what we are dealing with - we have no fucking clue, and I think this gets more implanted with every trip: WE HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE so IMO the whole key is to REALIZE that you do not know what you are dealing with and just accpect whatever happens as a result of you not knowing what you are dealing with. Chalk that up to my ignorance of existence in general or whatever man but I get more confident of this fact (we have no idea!) with every trip.... it kind of seems like that's the whole point sometimes ("you have no IDEA!"). Of course on the other hand, at times on a trip it can seem like you know precisely what EVERYTHING is about, but remember at the same time that your judgement may be lacking "I don't have any problems currently" Sure you do. I mean I don't want to freak you out again or anything but lol don't get over-confident.... One of the things I dig about mushrooms is that they enhance my mind's ability to realize that I DO have problems that should be taken care of. Don't make big of these problems that your mind points out at the time, as they might not even be real, but take mental notes because sometimes they are and you can learn a lot about various things you should be doing with your life when you look back on a mindfuck. "I never had what you guys would call serious problems" Now THIS I agree with from reading your posts - it doesn't seem like there's anything fucked-up going on with you.... just a simple curiosity that may or may not be fulfilled soon, and the choice is up to you. I think you'll do fine but just make sure you're not expecting the mushroom to do anything specific to you, and make sure you're not expecting yourself to do anything specific with the mushroom. You find out during/after the trip what it was all about, and magically it can be completely different every time But remember this most of all: We're not you and we don't know shit!
-------------------- Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me. In addition: SHPONGLE
Edited by Strumpling (08/24/04 10:08 AM)
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Zoso_UK
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: Strumpling]
#3042754 - 08/24/04 03:04 AM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Great post Strumpling
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utopianglory
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: kubix]
#3048546 - 08/25/04 12:37 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thing about all these questions and whatnot is that they show that you have soome insecurity about what is going to happen and you're probably going to get overwhelmed initially by the experience. The thing you have to remember is that we've all been through this (some worse than others, I was bad). Aside from that there really is no other issue. All you have to do is come into the trip confident as you can be and ready to enjoy it. This is the key. Nothing else.
If you think confident, you will have a great trip.
Definitely pick your music to be the absolute best fit for you based on which tracks make you feel excited and happy. Don't waste your time with anything that is depressive or slow paced.
If you have any problems regarding bad direction I highly recommend this: find your security music (that makes you happy) and turn it on super loud. The thing about tripping and having bad times is that it mostly occurs when your attention is not really recruited, if you put loud music into the equation it will send you a: on an emotional tangent, and b: connecting to the music.
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MOTH
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: utopianglory]
#3048581 - 08/25/04 12:45 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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utopianglory said: Don't waste your time with anything that is depressive or slow paced.
I'd like to counter that slow-music is what I enjoy most while tripping. It makes me feel heavenly and relaxed. I guess everyone is different!
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utopianglory
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: MOTH]
#3048659 - 08/25/04 01:06 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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EllemyshShade said:
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utopianglory said: Don't waste your time with anything that is depressive or slow paced.
I'd like to counter that slow-music is what I enjoy most while tripping. It makes me feel heavenly and relaxed. I guess everyone is different!
Yeh I didn't quite mean as in tempo, which was not very obvious from what I said.
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MOTH
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: utopianglory]
#3048683 - 08/25/04 01:13 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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gotcha...for nice, slow beats and rhythms one of my favorite CD's is B-Tribe's Spiritual! Spiritual! Oh...my...God...it's marvelous. Heaven...complete heaven! I'm surprised that more people on the Shroomery haven't listened to B-Tribe while tripping. I highly recommend it. I never feel anxious when listening to Spiritual! Spiritual! while tripping.
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Hahzist
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: Strumpling]
#3048997 - 08/25/04 02:48 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was really afraid of trying shrooms too my first time. I was 17. You will probably find that they are a lot easier to handle than you thought. If you dont feel you have any MAJOR psychological problems then your fine. I have tripped with people who go to counselors every week, but unless you are taking a super heavy dose, shrooms are just not as powerful as you probably think.
My guess is you will enjoy the shit out of them like I did, even though I was really paranoid for the first half hour of the trip, thinking that i was going to go insane.
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Re: my brain keeps itching- doubts about psychedelic experie [Re: kubix]
#3051035 - 08/25/04 10:50 PM (19 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah man, the first few times around are pure clear sailing if you have everything lined up, a nice space and whatnot. You're going to say, "Oh my god! This is the greatest thing ever! I feel like I've been here before! I feel in control of my mind and my life, both of which are fantasticly amazing! I am living in heaven on earth!" And then you'll think about that for a while.
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