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OfflineTheChiaPetFarmer
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temperature drops as a cue for pinning
    #3020589 - 08/18/04 11:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Since the temperature naturally drops at night, has anyone tried to allow a temperature drop in their fruiting chamber to mimic this natural occurence?

If cold shocking induces pinning, wouldn't this temperature drop at night (inside a fruiting chamber) naturally help the pinning momentum?


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020749 - 08/19/04 12:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

A drop in temps from incubating to fruiting is all thats needed anything more would only be redundant. :wink:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020770 - 08/19/04 12:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

WHAT  Have you read anything before Posting????????  :rolleyes:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020873 - 08/19/04 12:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So the redundant temp drops in nature do nothing for a p. cubensis growing naturally in nature?

Sorry if these questions sound dumb, but I'm not a mycologist (obviously) and these are just curiosity questions.  :confused:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020912 - 08/19/04 12:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yes temps droping affect fruiting

It just I don't think you have taken the real time to read the fact sec. or did any searches.

Wasn't trying to ruff you up or anything  :tongue2:

When you first experience growing with grains and casing them
the whole question of lower temps at night becomes silly

What until you see all the damn shrooms. There really wont be any room from the slight improvemnt lower temps st night might bring.
The casing will be frikin huge and shrooms will be leaping at you :wink:

OH YES WELCOME TO THE BOARD :goodluck:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020921 - 08/19/04 12:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

There are no dumb questions bro. In nature nightly drops are not continuous enough to trigger pinning, also any mushrooms are more prolific in the fall than the spring or summer. And welcome also!! GL


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3020969 - 08/19/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cool. Thanks for explaining that! I understand now.  :grin:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3021350 - 08/19/04 01:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hey I don't stand on either side of right or wrong with this practice but this is an interesting post from not too long ago:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum4&Number=2144996&Forum=,,f4,,&Words=temp.cycling&Searchpage=2&Limit=25&Main=1945213&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=&newertype=m&olderval=6&oldertype=m&bodyprev=#Post2144996


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: atomic1]
    #3021511 - 08/19/04 02:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think somethings very fucked with that thread. Maybe I'm not comprehending it either cause if I am thats some dense stuff between them ears! :wink: said with all respects and confusion.


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3021560 - 08/19/04 02:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Nice find atomic. :dancing:

That's exactly what I was wondering. Obviously the teks out there are good because they allow us to grow shrooms successfully with all the careful attention to humidity and temperature. But I always wondered why the day/night temp cycle was never incorporated. Maybe it's been overlooked, or maybe it just doesn't make a difference. But regardless, it's something to be explored because mycelia rely on environmental cues - and the better we are able to mimic those cues, the more efficient we can grow them.

just my .02


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3021641 - 08/19/04 02:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Basics TheChiaPetFarmer Pinning triggers are temp drop, light, and fresh air. This is the ways it's been since the beginning of time so ya ya missed da boat bro. Tip: Read a book on growing shrooms, that thread is a joke in the eyes of this mycologist.


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: TheChiaPetFarmer]
    #3021715 - 08/19/04 03:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Cubensis eats substrate best at 86 F. The further you drop the temperature from
that temp, without passing a critical temp that kills, the faster you stop it from
EATING. When the mycelium stops eating and is exposed to light, oxygen it begins to pin.

Going from 86 to 75 may not be significant enough to immediately trigger fruiting.
The mycelium may continue to feed until the OTHER stimuli trigger fruiting.
So cold shocking may speed up fruiting

The Mycelium has to STOP growing to fruit.

Its not necessary to immitate night time temp drops.
Just lower the temp and Use other triggers to start fruiting.

Dropping temps 10 degrees is not the same as dropping it 40 degrees. The former
just slows down the growth. The latter can STOP IT. Once the mycelium stops
growing it starts the pinning process, after a short lag to GET READY. COLD
SHOCK could make this happen faster. If it does, like wise it can make the in
between flush period, LONGER. Temps beneficial to fruiting are Lower then temps
beneficial to growing(eating). The mycelium gathers nutrients in FEEDING mode,
stores them, and uses them to develope the first and second flush. Then it has to
feed some more to make more pins and develope them. This is why I think Cold
shocking might speed up pin set, but slow down the time in between flushes.


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: hyphae]
    #3021779 - 08/19/04 03:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I only said that the thread was interesting........I do agree with u dcyans on the book thing and personally vouch for Paul Stammets/J.S. Chilton's "The Mushroom Cultivator".  I think most everyone agrees on that book.  Good investment :wink:


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Re: temperature drops as a cue for pinning [Re: SubGen1us]
    #3022562 - 08/19/04 11:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for that  :thumbup:


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