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for the skeptics
    #3019252 - 08/18/04 06:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i am trying to understand how skeptics come about there conclusions in life so please answer this for me if you will.

Where do thoughts come from, if anywhere, where is it situated, what is its parameters, and is there any scientific or physical facts or data to show this????


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019259 - 08/18/04 06:08 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

you're ideas are interesting, but I'm skeptic...


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019261 - 08/18/04 06:09 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Where do thoughts come from, if anywhere, where is it situated, what is its parameters, and is there any scientific or physical facts or data to show this????




your brain.....


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: ld50negative1]
    #3019290 - 08/18/04 06:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

how do you know???


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019297 - 08/18/04 06:17 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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nuerons forming connections with nuerons and their interactions.. the way memory is stored.. the way we can read thoughts now.. ( was reading a bit about that, a bit.. freaky.. but apparently the technology exists now, to an extent )


You know, we CAN see nuerons moving and such


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: vampirism]
    #3019328 - 08/18/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

but that still doesn't explain how we percieve thoughts or where they come from that just explains how the brain works to percieve these thoughts...


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019341 - 08/18/04 06:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

correct.


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019351 - 08/18/04 06:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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i am trying to understand how skeptics come about there conclusions in life so please answer this for me if you will.



I thought the point of skepticism was not to arrive at any conclusions.


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: vampirism]
    #3019355 - 08/18/04 06:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

so these thoughts must come from outside the brain


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019360 - 08/18/04 06:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes.

Without things to experience, we probably could not think.


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: silversoul7]
    #3019361 - 08/18/04 06:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i know i am just trying to get an understanding of how there thought process works


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: vampirism]
    #3019369 - 08/18/04 06:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

you have explained how the brain works but still haven't said where thoughts come from


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019370 - 08/18/04 06:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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yeah i know i am just trying to get an understanding of how there thought process works



It's pretty simple, actually: Question everything.


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: silversoul7]
    #3019376 - 08/18/04 06:31 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yeah as you can see thats what i am doing at the moment but i am a bit skeptic that all these hard ass skeptics are really skeptic


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019387 - 08/18/04 06:33 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

why the fuck are you asking about skeptics if you just want to understand thought???


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: ld50negative1]
    #3019398 - 08/18/04 06:36 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i don't want to know about thought i have my own beleifs where thoughts come from and such. i want to see how skeptics can explain and justify how they think about thoughts and where they come from.


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019418 - 08/18/04 06:41 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

the origin of consience is unknown. Proliferation/Termination of neuronal pathways, or plasticity, does compensate for a maturing brain, but the reticular fashion of this growth and variability is unique for everyone. Nonetheless, plasticity, or your brain for that matter, merely organizes all the patterning to give you a front seat in experiencing perception. Unfortunately, to answer your question, the origin of conscience itself isn't known and's open to useless theoretical application, but it goes as far as cortical tissue in search for it. I say accept that consciousness is abstract to possible registration, atleast in our lifetimes, and just cling to our pathetic convictions of its existance.  :cool:


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: Mrbadguy]
    #3019425 - 08/18/04 06:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yeah i know this but i would like to know how a skeptic would veiw this


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: Mrbadguy]
    #3019434 - 08/18/04 06:45 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

because that would go against everything that they beleive in something that could or could not exsist


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Re: for the skeptics [Re: spudamore]
    #3019442 - 08/18/04 06:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

ah, i believe that there is some level of a vocal type module seated somewhere in the brain that mayhap be responsible for such random generation for decision making. Everything else is involuntary. I can't answer where exactly such a "module's" locus would be...


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