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OfflineNorthernsoul
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Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them?
    #3019192 - 08/18/04 05:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone here sympathise with the middle east and the way they are forced to take it the way they do by the U.S.? Do you sympathise with them, and them hating the U.S. in this day and age? Can you sympathise with them, when thier whole family gets wiped out in the name of WMD, and wanting revenge? Can you sympathise with them, when all they have are thier fundamental beleifs, a bomb, and thier own life when it comes to fighting back?

I do, and so would the rest of us if we had to live the same way as they did. I'm pretty sure with the amount of hard core christians here in N.A. that there would form a radical form of it out of hatred and for blowing up thier neighbourhood, and helping our enemies to repress us.

At least alot of Americans are waking up to this now more than before. I dont know if we either vote for one person or another that this thing will be even remotely fixed, but it's got to start somewhere. And the more we know the truth the better, because so many people just cant stand the truth when it comes to thier country fucking so many things up, they just cant belive it, and even if someone prooved it to them, they wouldnt give you the time of day because thier beliefs are alot more real than any stupid reality.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3019205 - 08/18/04 05:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

their families deserve to be wiped out even if there is no real good reason to do it.... just because they're middle eastern... shit i have middle eastern blood.... who cares... KILL THEM ALL... hell kill me


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: ld50negative1]
    #3019215 - 08/18/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ummm. ok.

Anyone else?


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3019279 - 08/18/04 06:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My heart goes out to those Middle-Easterners who have been unjustly attacked by U.S. bombs or US-funded weapons. It also goes out to those who are victimized by their own governments and the religious extremists who control it. My heart goes out to the moderate muslims who are caught in the crossfire between the US and their own jihadist countrymen. My heart goes out to the innocent Palestinians murdered by the Israeli army under the supposed premise of counterterrorism. My heart also goes out to the Israelis who have lost loved ones to terrorists. My heart goes out to those on both sides who truly want peace but are hindered by the extremists of both sides. My heart goes out to those who are blinded by the hate in their hearts. My heart goes out to those who have not the heart to feel sympathy for these people.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3019298 - 08/18/04 06:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks Silversoul. that was really beautiful. :wink:

Anyone else Sympathise with them?


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3021292 - 08/19/04 01:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I do, if that is surprising.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3021330 - 08/19/04 01:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

silversoul - I really enjoy your posts. you're always dead-on.
keep up the good work.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: silversoul7]
    #3021920 - 08/19/04 04:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You should be a politician  :smirk:


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3023327 - 08/19/04 02:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How about u StonEDPhucker? You sympahise?

Anyone else?


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3023466 - 08/19/04 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have sympathy for all of those people who had to live under the iron fist of the Taliban and Sadaam. I think that they will take a liking to freedom from such tyranny. I think that History will be very kind to the brave sacrifices that our kids are making today. Help is on the way.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: JesusChrist]
    #3023828 - 08/19/04 04:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

let's invade every nation! history will be kind.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3025459 - 08/19/04 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have more sympathy for the ones who had to live under Saddam Hussein and the USA is doing the right thing.

Saddam's mass graves:
http://massgraves.info/


Look what this one Iraqi is saying here:
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3728


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: st0nedphucker]
    #3025476 - 08/19/04 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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st0nedphucker said:
You should be a politician  :smirk:



I would, but I'm afraid some of my OTD antics would end up in an attack ad. :smirk:


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3025608 - 08/19/04 10:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyone here sympathise with the middle east and the way they are forced to take it the way they do by the U.S.?




What are you referring to them taking, specifically? The billions of dollars each year that their rulers make off of the oil profits while people are starving? That sounds like a bigger issue with their leadership than with the US.
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Do you sympathise with them, and them hating the U.S. in this day and age?




No.
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Can you sympathise with them, when thier whole family gets wiped out in the name of WMD, and wanting revenge?




I don't think that this happened very much, but if you are sympathizing with people for losing loved ones in  retailatory acts, shouldn't you be symphathizing for the ones in NYC and other US places? As well, of course, as Israel?
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Can you sympathise with them, when all they have are thier fundamental beleifs, a bomb, and thier own life when it comes to fighting back?




You use the words "them" to group together a gigantic mass of land with many different people with widely varying beliefs and cultures. It seems here that you are talking about the Palestinean homicide-bombers. They resort to such extreme measures because their own goals are so extreme. If their goal was to peacefully co-exist with Israel, they would turn their anger on the leaders in Palstine that prevent this. Their goal, however, is the utter destruction of Judaism, the West, and a Jewish-controlled Israel. That is why they don't attempt compromise, use the negotiating table as their weapon of choice, and resort to murdering innocent women and children. Watch the Olympics this year and see the comraderie there, then remember what these people did in Munich.
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I do, and so would the rest of us if we had to live the same way as they did.




I wouldn't attack the people that live in freedom and desire to spread freedom through the world. I'd attack my own self-appointed, demogogeic dictators that brutally supressed me and my people while pointing the finger at a scape goat.
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I'm pretty sure with the amount of hard core christians here in N.A. that there would form a radical form of it out of hatred and for blowing up thier neighbourhood, and helping our enemies to repress us.




Sure their would. The KKK and other extremist groups would, and have demonstrated in the past a propensity for, rising up and attacking the government that they feel is oppressive. The point here again is that these people are so far to the right, in this case, and extreme in their viewpoints that they only can accomplish their goal through brutality and violence.
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At least alot of Americans are waking up to this now more than before. I dont know if we either vote for one person or another that this thing will be even remotely fixed, but it's got to start somewhere.




You can vote for either of the canditates that you want, but I don't think it will matter any. Just do the best you can for yourself and try to distance yourself from mainstream society.
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And the more we know the truth the better, because so many people just cant stand the truth when it comes to thier country fucking so many things up, they just cant belive it, and even if someone prooved it to them, they wouldnt give you the time of day because thier beliefs are alot more real than any stupid reality.



Those profound truths you are talking about, hypocrisy and such, work both ways. Turn the mirror around at yourself :smile: Do you think that people living in an opppressive, brutal dictatorship would be better to focus their attention on their dictators, or on the targets that the dictators paint as "the enemy".

On a more personal note, do you wear your "ANARCHY" and "Rage Against the Machine" shirts to school every day? I think I've met a few hundred of you.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Northernsoul]
    #3025641 - 08/19/04 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have sympathy for these children. That's why I want them liberated and a coalition of western nations can do it.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40





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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Ed1]
    #3025658 - 08/19/04 10:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Ed1]
    #3026008 - 08/19/04 11:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



Just like how the US "liberated" Central America from the atheist Communists, right? That worked out great...


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Vvellum]
    #3026673 - 08/20/04 02:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

" Just like how the US "liberated" Central America from the atheist Communists, right? That worked out great... "

Yep, Japan and West Germany really are in the shitter right about now too.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #3026947 - 08/20/04 03:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Don't forget that South Korea and Taiwan are a complete mess. They have been virtually overrun by wealth, success, and the resulting devestation. I don't know how you can sleep at night.


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Re: Middle Eastern Reality. Can you sympathise with them? [Re: retread]
    #3028884 - 08/20/04 04:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Those profound truths you are talking about, hypocrisy and such, work both ways. Turn the mirror around at yourself Do you think that people living in an opppressive, brutal dictatorship would be better to focus their attention on their dictators, or on the targets that the dictators paint as "the enemy".

When you imply a certain view as being right or wrong, good or bad, left or right, better or Not better, brutal, not brutal, you are also implying dualism. I get caught up in it, you get caught up in it, we all do.
If one says the states are bad, then someone else besides them must be good. And if someone in Arabia is innocent, then someone else must be guilty.
So what can we do. Well, we can just observe. We can see .

So without implying any dualism at all, I can say that I see alot of suffering over there, and here. I see anger in N.America, I see anger in Shroomery, I see confusion in this post, and I'll even admit that I'm confused.

Have you ever heard the saying: It helps to admit you know nothing in order to learn anything.

All I ask is if you can sympathise with people that suffer, reguardless of the politics. This just proves that once you throw politics into the question (which I did) that suffering becomes obsolete ansd shrouded as all of us get caught up in blaming each side, and implying the difficult to avoid dualistic opinion.


On a more personal note, do you wear your "ANARCHY" and "Rage Against the Machine" shirts to school every day? I think I've met a few hundred of you.


Thats a stereotype. And no I dont care about anacrchy.


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