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Invisiblesilversoul7
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I'm as old as the universe
    #3018672 - 08/18/04 03:54 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

And so are you. Birth and death are really illusions. The matter that composes your body has always existed and always will. Birth, death, and decay are nothing more than a shift in your atomic structure.

That is all.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3018729 - 08/18/04 04:05 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

bah

I was still around when the universe was in the alpha testing phase :P

If you like this universe...  wait till you see the universe 2.0
:smile: :smile: :smile:


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3018762 - 08/18/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

We were born before the wind
Also younger than the sun
Ere the bonnie boat was won as we sailed into the mystic
Hark, now hear the sailors cry
Smell the sea and feel the sky
Let your soul and spirit fly into the mystic


:heart:


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3018835 - 08/18/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

".. we are eternal, all this pain is an illusion."


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3018852 - 08/18/04 04:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

cosmic immortality


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3019088 - 08/18/04 05:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I hope you are using a good moisturizer and are taking calcium for bone loss.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: Swami]
    #3019117 - 08/18/04 05:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I was going to ask him how often he changes his underwear.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3019217 - 08/18/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Perhaps you should have asked him if he is still "gettinjiggywithit".


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3020191 - 08/18/04 09:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

are "you" merely the matter that constitutes your physical body?

or are "you" something generated by your brain, something which has existed for little over 2 decades?

or are "you" something else?


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: ]
    #3020203 - 08/18/04 09:58 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good question.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: ]
    #3020409 - 08/18/04 10:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Good questions yes, but inquiring minds want to know if he can still get jiggy with it being as old as the universe and if he gave up changing his draws after a few eons?

Seriously silver,  you did make yourself out to be merely a physical being made of atoms that have existed for as long as the physical universe has. Have you considered that you may also be consciousness and that consciousness is not made up of atoms? That would make you not as old as the universe, but even older coming from the consciousness that created the physical universe. Even if that consciousness was just light and sound vibrations-not reffering to a god being as I don't beleive in one.

I think we are eternal sub atomics!

Neither here nor there, right now you are silver made manifest on this plane of existance. Fuck the quantity of years and go for quality of moments! :wink: They are all we have!


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3020424 - 08/18/04 10:37 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yes, I do believe that the consciousness that manifests itself in me is older than the universe, but I can't back it up. On physical immortality, however, science is on my side.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: silversoul7]
    #3020428 - 08/18/04 10:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

people lets come together, we are all made of stars


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #3020458 - 08/18/04 10:47 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

people lets come together, we are all made of stars

it's pretty cool that our bodies are made from star dust that is as old as the universe... but i don't think we are merely our physical bodies.

this is going to sound skeptical and mundane to you people... so i'll preface it with telling you that i've been on my share of awe-inspiring, unfathomable, inexpressable psychedelic experiences. i'm a frequent meditator. i've been reading the classic works of eastern philosophy for years...

but i find these truths to be evident and unavoidable:

i exist. of this i am sure. i'm pretty sure that the thing which i call "i" exists only as a result of the organ inside of the skull of this organism. i'm pretty sure that before this organ existed, i didn't exist, and when it no longer does, neither will i. someday, i will die. it will not be an illusion. i will actually be dead and gone.

... but i'm a young lad still.. maybe i don't have everything figured out just yet.  :wink:

we'll see where this thing goes.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: ]
    #3020489 - 08/18/04 10:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

this isn't to say that one cannot contemplate the oneness of it all. one can walk a spiritual path. one can cultivate te. one can be compassionate, loving, and maybe even wise. one can understand and accept one's smallness. one can understand the futility of grasping and clawing at that which is impermanent. one can see the bigger picture...

but i do thing that it is naive, presumptous, foolish, and most importantly, terribly misguided to brush off death as an "illusion". that works well until one is actually dying. death is very real.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: ]
    #3020503 - 08/18/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

We would know everything if we were dead.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #3020509 - 08/18/04 11:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

explain to me this star dust thing


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: bumski]
    #3020520 - 08/18/04 11:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

My cat's name is stardust.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: bumski]
    #3020564 - 08/18/04 11:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Read the big bang theory. Stars are the catalysts of evolution. In the beginning they (stars) took the basic element of Hydrogen (which they are made of), compressed it so greatly, they fused together created Helium (I think). Now Helium + Hydrogen compressed makes something else, and evolve the system on and on.

That is the evolution of matter thanks to the stars.
The evolution of consciousness is much the same, and I believe is directly linked.


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Re: I'm as old as the universe [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #3020605 - 08/18/04 11:28 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

So, when I go to the bathroom I shit stardust? That makes it sound more clean at least.


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