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OfflineJemini
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Hawaiian Woodrose?
    #3015407 - 08/17/04 07:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I'm posting this from a hotel in Kauai, Hawaii. Today I went on a guided bike/hike tour through surrounding forest. Anyway, our guide pointed out some Hawaiian Woodroses, so recalling Erowid I snatched a few figuring they might come in handy. After a little research I found these were not as good as HBWR. However, I'm still unclear as whether these contain any lsa at all. Some web sites say yes, some say no. Has anyone had any experience with these seeds. I have 10 fresh seeds. It's no big deal if they aren't potent as I don't have much interest in trying them personally. I figured they would make a nice souvenir for a friend back in the states.
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OfflineYouEnjoyMyself
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Jemini]
    #3015536 - 08/17/04 08:26 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

i want to go to haiwaii....


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OfflineGod_of_Dreams
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #3017167 - 08/18/04 05:56 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

ur name is jamie isnt it


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Offlinekadakuda
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Jemini]
    #3017840 - 08/18/04 10:49 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

its the hawaiian BABY woodrose that people use for those purposes.


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OfflineJemini
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: kadakuda]
    #3017916 - 08/18/04 11:09 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

God of Dreams, no my name is not Jamie. And Kadakuda, I'm aware that the baby woodrose is the prefered seed and the seeds I have would be less potent. However, that still doesn't answer my question as to whether the plain old woodrose contains any active akaloids at all.
Mahalo

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OfflineHoodedForestDwellr
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Jemini]
    #3018348 - 08/18/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

try an extraction, that can't be more potent than the Baby woodrose, right? Might get high, might not. Give us a report!


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OfflineOpenminded
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Jemini]
    #3018536 - 08/18/04 01:28 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Of course, it's possible that they are HBWR, the guide might not know of the distinction between HWR and HBWR...

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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Openminded]
    #3018615 - 08/18/04 01:42 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I have worked with several people from hawaii who thought they had what was argyreia nervosa and they all turned out to be different varieties. Some were the large woodrose and some were unidentifiable species, but deff. not nervosa. The large woodrose have palmate like maple leaves while the baby woodrose have heart shaped leaves. Thats the easiest indicator.

most people feel that the large woodrose, dispite previos mention in gottliebs terrible books , are absolutely void of active components. MJshroomer should have some interesting references to this.. I personally am unsure.


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Offlineadamole666
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #3018626 - 08/18/04 01:43 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

I`ve only heard of one, HBWR


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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Jemini]
    #3018634 - 08/18/04 01:45 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

If they are indeed not hBwr, they're useless for ethno reasons... they're rather large, flat seeds... probably bigger than lima beans.

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OfflineAneglakya
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3018648 - 08/18/04 01:48 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Your post confuses me harvey. The large woodrose seeds I have seen aren't flat but sort of ovate black and very pubescent (which cannot be scraped off like baby woodrose). are you refering to large or another variety?


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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Aneglakya]
    #3018723 - 08/18/04 02:04 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Large woodrose... my bad :smile:

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InvisibleYoung_but_cool
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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: HarveyWalbanger]
    #3019064 - 08/18/04 03:30 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

The large hawaiian woodrose seeds I've seen were round, not flat  :confused:
I think it was at least 10 years since I saw them, but I'm pretty sure. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

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Re: Hawaiian Woodrose? [Re: Young_but_cool]
    #3019471 - 08/18/04 04:53 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

maybe I'm mistaken... I've been looking for a picture for a few hours.

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