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    #3011326 - 08/17/04 12:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbdown: Since the short time I've been back I've been overwhelmed by people who are still leaving tape on there jars. I'm not sure which tek suggests this but I will express my disappointment that there are still peeps doing this here. I've seen 6 or 7 cases since I've been back where jars have stalled because of no gas exchange, I've seen this dozens of times over the years so it's just something that people need to realize, gas exchange IS always good for a healthy culture. The pro's don't use tape why should you guys, if your not going to use foil then PLEASE take the tape off BEFORE you innoculate (of course) :wink: and leave it off. You won't be sorry as long as ya didn't fu<kup the moisture content of the jar! :wink: It would be nice to see much less "Why are my jars stalled?" threads. They will always be stalled jars, too wet, too dry, too cold, etc, etc; as well as those who will always defend taping the holes thats life but for those who want to take a step up in this hobby, Tip: loose the tape altogether and pass that on to all your friends and tell your enemies to leave the tape on and if they ask why well I can't help ya there I can't think of one reason besides to keep the water out thats it :wink: GL guys :thumbup:


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011341 - 08/17/04 12:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i dunno bout that. Jars seem to do really well if u tape em then once they are partially colonized remove the tape.


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011347 - 08/17/04 12:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i PC with tape and foil then once i nocc 'em up i leave the tape off and just use foil


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011359 - 08/17/04 12:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

k dcyans......no tyvek? your post is vague.......are we talkin PF with 4 holes and a dry verm layer?


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011371 - 08/17/04 01:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh shit... i didn't read the whole post.... sry, that first one is my PF procedure, for grain jars i just use a tyvek disc and cover the inoculation hole w/a bandaid


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Re: Taping holes [Re: PsyllyMe]
    #3011404 - 08/17/04 01:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Seriously are you really asking that question PsyllyMe? Obviously you could leave your innoc. hole taped because your using filters allowing for excellent gas exchange, this is for the one who are not.
negative try it without and see what a healthy culture grows like, my bet you most likely won't notice any difference :wink: I'll ask you a question why did you put tape on the holes? GL guys


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011464 - 08/17/04 01:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sorry dc.......i just read you post

it didnt mention filters

no offense


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Re: Taping holes [Re: PsyllyMe]
    #3011478 - 08/17/04 01:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

uuuuuh, was that an attack on my personal happiness? are u saying that i am not observant. i kill u DERp!


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Re: Taping holes [Re: negative]
    #3011561 - 08/17/04 01:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good point PsyllyMe it was a good thing that was brought out;)
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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011705 - 08/17/04 02:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sorry but i didnt get this.
so i have jars colonising with 2 layers of aluminum foil on top. the first layer is with the 4 holes and the second with no holes. i noticed that the jars have stopped colonising or are colonising extremely slow (they are on 80%). Should i take off the second layer? or both foils?
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Re: Taping holes [Re: Hamurabi]
    #3011743 - 08/17/04 02:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No tape? You can take off the first layer with holes but it shouldn't matter unless ya have that foil wrapped super tight around the rim then maybe loosening the foil a bit would help. Where is the uncolonized portion?


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011763 - 08/17/04 02:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im rather new, but leaving my pint PF jars taped till partially colonized, then flipped after the tape was taken off but replaced with Tyvek seems a really good way to go, so tape till partially, then take it off


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3011766 - 08/17/04 02:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

my jars are the jars that the pf-tek shows in photos. No lid, just 2 layers of aluminum foil,the first layer with the holes and the other with no holes.

My uncolonised part in most of the stalled jars is on the bottom..
do u think i should take off the second layer of aluminum foil and let only the first layer with the holes?


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Re: Taping holes [Re: 4hodmt]
    #3011783 - 08/17/04 03:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Whats the reason your leaving the tape on? 4hodmt
Hamurabi in your case just flip it. Back when I was doing PF's tek we used nails or drilled the lids and one piece of foil over the top. At least thats what came in the instructions that came with his syringes :wink: Goodnight guys see ya in the AM :wink:


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3012010 - 08/17/04 04:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

would tyvek not be a simple addition to the pftek? you punch the four syringe holes, put a tyvek disc or layer over the top...not too difficult.

i've found a neat little trick where you can take a flashlight and shine it inside the jar to illuminate the syringe holes to mark them. makes it a lot easier :smile:


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Re: Taping holes [Re: dustz]
    #3012068 - 08/17/04 05:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Tyvek is not necessary in the PF Tek.


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Re: Taping holes [Re: dog]
    #3012094 - 08/17/04 05:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The reason people leave them taped is because it keeps out contams.

Can a healthy substrate become contaminated? NO

How much colonizations is required before we can remove the tape? GOD KNOWS


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Re: Taping holes [Re: donkey_lipz]
    #3012118 - 08/17/04 05:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The top layer of verm serves as a contam barrier (assuming of course that the cultivator did not intoduce a nutritive substance to said barrier).


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Re: Taping holes [Re: hyphae]
    #3012396 - 08/17/04 09:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

dcyans said:
I'm not sure which tek suggests this



Taken right from the pf tek under the title "Incubation of Jars"
"After inoculation of the jars, tighten the lid bands and retape the needle holes. Place the jars in a safe place out of direct sunlight."


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    #3012400 - 08/17/04 09:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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