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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3009960 - 08/16/04 04:51 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

If the Palestinians had an army with tanks and apaches, they would kill all the Jews and they would be supported by all the arab countries around them except Turkey. Well, atleast they would try to destroy Israel, but they always underestimate the Israelies. They underestimated them in 1967 and got knocked the fuck out.


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3009995 - 08/16/04 04:58 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

The real reason there are so many Palestinian suicide bombers is that as Muslims they believe that dieing while doing jihad guarantees that they will get to heaven. Just living a strict Muslim life doesn't guarentee it.


http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=14660


The book "Islam and Terrorism" by ex-Muslim former Islamic history professor (in Egypt) Mark Gabriel:

http://cbw.strang.com/c.cgi?ProdID=8847&Source=CNSITE

Some pages from Mark Gabriel's book (need Adobe Acrobat Reader):

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter4.pdf 206KB

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter5.pdf 124KB

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/DeceitChapter6.pdf 101KB

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/MuslimPastorCh7.pdf 100KB

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/3StagesJihadCh11.pdf 88KB


You can get Adobe Acrobat Reader for free here:
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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Ed1]
    #3010021 - 08/16/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

what prevents you from dying without suicide bombing? Sadly, your theory is useless considering that they die anyway

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Ed1]
    #3010038 - 08/16/04 05:06 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

As you can see here the UN created Israel and Palestine:


http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/ngo/history.html

Palestinians want to die at the hands of the non-believer.

Edited by Ed1 (08/16/04 05:08 PM)

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Ed1]
    #3010052 - 08/16/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

This comes from Mark Gabriel's book. It explains the true reason there are suicide bombers. Read it and wake up.

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter4.pdf

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3010124 - 08/16/04 05:31 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Not all of islam preaches violence. Osama Bin Laden belongs to the Wahabbis sect which is more extreme.


generalizations never work.

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Re: Zionists invaded Palestine - End of story [Re: Ed1]
    #3010219 - 08/16/04 06:06 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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Then you should be on our side and want to destroy the Communist system, its the most fascist system on earth and it spreads like cancer. If the Communists took over Israel, Israel would go down hill. The extremists would ruin the economy and life in another victim country.




same lame domino theory, different day.


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Ed1]
    #3010735 - 08/16/04 08:29 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

"If the Palestinians had an army with tanks and apaches, they would kill all the Jews and they would be supported by all the arab countries around them except Turkey. Well, atleast they would try to destroy Israel, but they always underestimate the Israelies. They underestimated them in 1967 and got knocked the fuck out. "

Yeah.. I think that's what drove them to what I refer to as, "The Fucking Coward's Way Out".

That is, hiding amongst civilians that may not support you, targetting areas with high numbers of civilians and low numbers of military personel (to avoid being stopped), and generally causing the enemy to have to confront the problem of not knowing who it is they're supposed to shoot.

See, when the Arab World decided to put their thumb down on Israel, one week later they were all hiding far, far away waving their fists because they got pwned. That's the only thing that describes exactly how hard they got owned.

If the Arabs weren't drooling for the total and absolute destruction of Israel, how much do you want to bet that Israel would stop killing them. They're not out to kill all Muslims, but the Muslims are out to kill all Jews.

Yes yes whatever, throw some of your "But not all!" garbage out now. Obviously not all, but those that are of that belief are doing their best to make it APPEAR that it is ALL of them. They do that by hiding amongst the populous and not making it clear who the enemy is.

The Vietnamese used this tactic.
How great did that end up for them?


And the next person who brings up numbers of Palestinian civilians and children killed gets a smack in the face.
You can't even pretend those numbers aren't much higher than they should be -- again a tactic picked up in Vietnam.

If you send a kid running towards the enemy with a grenade in their hand, the enemy is presented with a choice: Do not shoot the child, and be killed, or shoot the child and be accused to murdering and innocent child. How does that work?
When you shoot the child, the grenade blows up. After that, the only evidence you have is a mangled corpse, and absolutely nothing to prove that the kid was charging you with a live grenade.

Abhorrant. I fail to see how anybody could support a culture that would allow, encourage, train or trick children into killing themselves to demoralize an enemy -- ANY enemy. Such a thing is monstrous.

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3010872 - 08/16/04 09:11 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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I find it interesting how people feverishly defend Palestinian terrorism, but have never personally had a family member blown to pieces by a suicide bomber.




Do you really think anyone here is defending Palestinian terrorism? Get real.

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Yeah, so Israelis are supposed to tie there hands in the face of people that are murdering them at shopping malls, clubs, bus stops and restuarants?




How about the Zionists get out of the occupied lands and quit bulldozing houses down and destroying family farms and blowing up apartment buildings and shooting children in the streets and refusing Red Crescent ambulances to rescue the people they continously injure?

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You might also notice that in World War II the Germans were supporting the Arabs who were massacring Jews in Palestine.




Interesting - sources?

Now, you might notice that the Zionists turned a blind eye to the Holocaust, if not, hindering rescue efforts as a means to further their political cause? http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/holocaust.htm
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/holocaust/holocaustpics.htm

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #3010887 - 08/16/04 09:16 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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The idea that Israel deliberately targets civilians is obviously flimsy based on the facts.




If that is the case, then please dispute the article Israel's Approved Ethnic Cleansing that I posted.

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Vvellum]
    #3011792 - 08/17/04 01:13 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Bio, how long have you been here? I have seen dozens of posts on here that say suicide bombing is acceptable due to the "conditions" of the Palestinian population.

Also, did Israel start occuppying more land before they were attacked by all the arab countries around them or after?


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: downforpot]
    #3011897 - 08/17/04 01:42 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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I have seen dozens of posts on here that say suicide bombing is acceptable due to the "conditions" of the Palestinian population.




Links? I read posters try to understand what would bring someone to do something so extreme, but I have yet to read anyone honestly try to justify or consider suicide bombings "acceptable" - actually, it seems as if most people here denouce these acts of extremists. Please provide links if you're going to make that claim.

Again, would you please dispute the article I have posted repeatedly? Have you read it yet?

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: downforpot]
    #3011946 - 08/17/04 01:56 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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downforpot said:
If the Palestinians had an army with tanks and apaches, they would kill all the Jews and they would be supported by all the arab countries around them except Turkey. Well, atleast they would try to destroy Israel, but they always underestimate the Israelies. They underestimated them in 1967 and got knocked the fuck out.




Turkey isn't an Arab country.


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Re: Zionists invaded Palestine - End of story [Re: Zahid]
    #3011948 - 08/17/04 01:57 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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It's not about method. The fact Palestinians use violent methods is a non-issue at focus when missiles are being lobbed into neighborhoods - the Palestinian culture is responding to Zionist fascism and occupation. There is no middle ground of both sides being equally selfish, it's a simple case of Zionists invading Palestine, end of story.

http://nowarforisrael.com/

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/



The Fanatical Culture of Zionism = Fascism. This picture is worth a thousand words.





Palestinian baby, shot in chest at point blank range by an Israeli soldier


The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the world?s major sources of instability.

Americans are directly connected to this conflict, and increasingly imperiled by its devastation.

It is the goal of If Americans Knew to provide full and accurate information on this critical issue, and on our power ? and duty ? to bring a resolution.

Below are charts of eight little-known statistics.
Please click on any statistic for the source and more information.


The U.S. gives $15,139,178 per day to the Israeli government and military and $568,744 per day to Palestinian NGO?s.


Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none.


972 Israelis and 3,136 Palestinians have been killed since September 29, 2000.


6,506 Israelis and 27,041 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000.


The Israeli unemployment rate is 10.4%, while the Palestinian unemployment is estimated at 37-67%.


111 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 595 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000.


1 Israeli home has been destroyed by Palestinians and 2,202 Palestinian homes have been completely destroyed (14,436 partially destroyed) since September 29, 2000.


60+ new Jewish-only settlements have been built on confiscated Palestinian land between March 2001 and July 11, 2003. There have been 0 cases of Palestinians confiscating Israeli land and building settlements.



The world needs to WAKE UP and realize Israel is the real terrorist, and Palestinians are the one's who are oppressed.

It's time people do something. It's time people get off the side lines and get rid of their neutral 'they're both stupid' stance and realize the state sponsored terrorism of the Zionist State of Israel.




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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Vvellum]
    #3012005 - 08/17/04 02:27 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck man, evertime you people ask for links. Just search the damn forum.


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: downforpot]
    #3013086 - 08/17/04 11:22 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

you made the specific claim, you back it up.

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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: downforpot]
    #3013097 - 08/17/04 11:24 AM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Beep beep beep back it up.


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Re: Zionists invaded Palestine - End of story [Re: Zahid]
    #3014815 - 08/17/04 05:10 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

Nobody has a "legitimate" claim over that territory against anyone else.

They all need to just learn to live with each other and stop being a bunch of freak ass monkey people.


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: downforpot]
    #3015101 - 08/17/04 06:47 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

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I have seen dozens of posts on here that say suicide bombing is acceptable due to the "conditions" of the Palestinian population.



Find one.


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Re: Arabs are good at sticking to their story. [Re: Zahid]
    #3015160 - 08/17/04 07:04 PM (19 years, 7 months ago)

This comes from Mark Gabriel's book. It explains the true reason there are suicide bombers. Read it and wake up.

http://home.ripway.com/2003-11/39191/Mark%20Gabriel/Chapter4.pdf

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