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What seperates man from beast
    #3007121 - 08/16/04 12:07 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think its amazing, and extremely brilliant, the creation of Man.

Its amazing what seperates man from beast, if you really think about it.

Beast is ignorant on good and evil. Beast lives on instinct. Because of that, can a beast really generate Karma?

I believe that explains perfectly how karma in its purest sense has to do with intention, rather than action. Action is the fruit of intention and Will, and Karma is the byproduct of Intention.


Looking at it , How can a beast enter into heavenly realms, when it does not really make any choices between Good or Wrong.

Man alone can enter paradise, because he can choose his path consciously. Perphaps this is the gift of being human, yet the curse as well.

Could this be what the garden of eden represented? When man broke free from beast, from instinct, and learned good and evil.

That is when we had the ability to create heaven on earth, or hell on earth...and both in our after lives as well.





Does any of this make sense to anyone?


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007149 - 08/16/04 12:11 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

When man broke free from beast, from instinct, and learned good and evil.

And self awareness symbolized by the couple recognizing they were naked.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007340 - 08/16/04 12:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Makes sense to me friend.

Very Very beautiful way of trusting in the choices of Man.

Yes, I know have a better understanding of the Differences between Man and Beast.

Thankyou. I agree Karma is the Key. The to heavens.

I have always likened heaven and hell to a battery. Positive and negtive.

During your life span your build up a charge. Negitive or Positive.

The choice is your to make.

So I think in some ways we have been in agreement far longer than today!


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007542 - 08/16/04 01:46 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Man alone can enter paradise, because he can choose his path consciously.

The ability to choose is not indicative of a heavenly realm.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Swami]
    #3007562 - 08/16/04 01:50 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

So what is the difference between Paradise and heavnly relm??


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3007579 - 08/16/04 01:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I don't really believe in heaven/hell, but I do believe in making the most of your life.

I think what seperates us from the more common beasts is the ability to reason. We lose a loved one, we wonder why, what could have been done to save them, what will be done with our lives now, etc. etc. A dog loses a loved one and it just feels a sense of loss and possible saddness, but doesn't think about all those things, a dog doesn't reason as man does.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007779 - 08/16/04 02:48 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I believe the main thing that separates man from beast is that we believe there is a difference between man and beast


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Ravus]
    #3007800 - 08/16/04 02:55 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

"He who makes himself a beast, gets rid of the pain of being a man." -Dr. Johnson

I enjoy proving this daily.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Ravus]
    #3007821 - 08/16/04 03:02 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing seperates us from animals.And btw buddha said animals CAN become enlightened as well as humans.Animals are not purely instinct they have been shown to be able to learn great things and are very concious of the things they do or dont do.Every animal has a special personality like humans.Animals learn like humans.Some can even speak and not merely mimic such as the African Grey Parrot.Some have extensive vocabularies and if you ask for a certain color or item out of a pile of things they can and will retrieve it if taught the names of the items and colors just like small children can learn.

Intelligence is a subjective thing and highly argued about.Even if we are smarter(since we measure by human standards of intelligence alone)it does not make us better.Many animals are much stronger than we are does it make them superior to us?
Many are swifter does it mean we are slow?

Humans are egotistical and need to believe in ranks,castes and general superiority over other things.

Animals have the full range of emotions we do.Love,anger,sadness,hunger,etc.

Difference is not equal to inferiority/superiority.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: UnenlightenedOne]
    #3007846 - 08/16/04 03:10 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The original post spoke of Karma being the difference between us and beast.

Very cool.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Fucknuckle]
    #3007868 - 08/16/04 03:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Nothing says animals cannot generate karma.Ignorance to Karma does not exclude one from it.If a man is ignorant of his own evil behaviour does he not still generate bad karma?Many humans do not realize how bad their behaviour really is.However they still generate bad karma whether they realize it or not.

So therefore ignorance of karma does not exclude animals from karma.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007869 - 08/16/04 03:16 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Good post, thanks for getting me thinking on this lazy evening! :smile:


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3007933 - 08/16/04 03:39 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think we've just kind of lucked out a few times :wink:

like when somebody invented "the tool" or "art" those are fuckin jackpots!!

nothing like realizing you can "create" to get your friends to do the same and REALLY get your mind flowing.. "dinner? no i'll eat later I'm building a giant stone monkey."

of course getting very precise with our vocal expressions has caught on pretty well too, which makes it a lot easier for me to understand what you understand.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3008338 - 08/16/04 09:59 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3008377 - 08/16/04 10:43 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

FuckNuckle - You said " have always likened heaven and hell to a battery. Positive and negtive.

During your life span your build up a charge. Negitive or Positive. "


YES MY FRIEND! That is something I've been trying to show people. In this realm, there is no inactivity. None. You are either buildind a positive momentum, or a negative one.



Swami - By heavenly and hellish realms, I did not mean anything religious. I merely meant the state of mind DURING life, and the state of existance AFTER life. If science and religion, or either one are correct at all - Then according to isaac newton, AND the great budda......everything we think, and do have a consequence. Chances are, the negative will draw more negative, the positive more positive.....OR......we can draw things into our life that we need.



UnelightenedOne - "Nothing seperates us from animals"

And that is why your name sticks :P

Do you really not see a great difference between man and beast? That would be a rather foolish observation. Think about it for a second.

Animal does not have the power to create heaven on earth, man does.

Animal cannot ever find peace within himself, he is a beast.

Animal does NOT choose right from wrong based on good intentions.





Man is constructed of Beast, Human, and Divinity. We are constructed of our Bodies, Our Minds, and our Souls. 
We have beast in us, but much, much more.


Can an animal build structures as a man can? Can an animal learn to heal others using the energy in his body?

Can an animal go to fast food and order a cheeseburger?



Contemplate the issue my friend :smile:


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3008395 - 08/16/04 10:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

supermarket said:
Beast is ignorant on good and evil. Beast lives on instinct.




the same goes for man.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3008423 - 08/16/04 11:17 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Man creates fantasy beings (gods) to explain his existence and the existence of all he perceives and mythical stories of an afterlife to comfort him against the concept of death, beasts don't engage in self deception.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Evolving]
    #3008432 - 08/16/04 11:22 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Evolving said:
Man creates fantasy beings (gods) to explain his existence and the existence of all he perceives and mythical stories of an afterlife to comfort him against the concept of death, beasts don't engage in self deception.



How can you be sure? Just because animals can't communicate those ideas to us doesn't mean they don't believe in them.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: tekramrepus]
    #3008435 - 08/16/04 11:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Animals don't really know who they are.


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Re: What seperates man from beast [Re: Evolving]
    #3008439 - 08/16/04 11:26 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

We really shouldn't think we know so much about "beasts". How come you can have a dog that behaves itself and clears feels bad if it harms something and a vindictive angry dog and say that they function on instinct alone. We love to make out how great we are as humans but our ancestors aren't that clueless.

And btw 'Evolving', your strict atheism is jst as much self deception as strict religion :P If you don't make strict beliefs either way then you avoid the possibility of self deception.


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