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Offlineshamanality
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2 1qt amazon casings....
    #3005095 - 08/14/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

greetitngs fellow shroomerites.

i just harvested the first flush off 2 1qt casings as mentionded in the subject.

i harvested 110g wet dried down to about 10 grams. the flush was good in that it had TONS of pins, but the mushrooms were quite little. average size 2 1/2 to 3 in. tall; and a cap size of 1/2 to 1 in.

after harvest i usually dont clean off completely all started mushrooms, and some continue on to grow, and some abort. does not cleaning completely the casing layer, take a way from second flush, and does anyone have any info on my mushrooms were so petite?

conditions in clear rubbermaid, are about 75-77 degrees, and 50 -70 percent humididty (pearlite) i fan on av erage of 5 times aday.

and info would be great, thanks!


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: shamanality]
    #3005146 - 08/14/04 08:23 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

well i should have done a bit of reading before posting, i have learned the proper way of harvesting and suggestions for casing repair. this was half of my post.

my guess as to why the flush produced so many small mushrooms would probably be, the casing was left to colonize too long, and perhaps too high of humidity. i said 50-70 but my humidity guage is most likely innacutare, seeing as the walls are full of condensation.

any imput would be great, and if yall think i got a handle on this stuff, just let me know and i'll stop taking up space.


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: shamanality]
    #3005640 - 08/14/04 11:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

What was it you cased? If it was birdseed, I'd HIGHLY suggest adding moistened vermiculite into your casing. I like to use about a 1/1 ratio although most people probably go closer to 2/1 wbs to vermiculite. Do a search for "rez effect" and you'll probably get some good ideas.

You can let the grain colonize by itself to save time, then sterilize the vermiculite, mix the two together, allow the casing to grow together under incubation conditions, then case as normal. The extra water will allow for much greater growth. I bet you could increase your first flush yeilds 50-100%. Best of luck!


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: shamanality]
    #3005643 - 08/14/04 11:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That's off 2 quarts?  Maybe more like 100-200% :smirk:


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: mockeylock]
    #3005652 - 08/14/04 11:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

50-70 % humidity could be your first problem..

try 90-99%


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: OuchITripped]
    #3006223 - 08/15/04 08:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

99-100 RH will completely stall casings. 85-90 is a good level. Casings dont require as much RH and that was part of my problem when I first started them. I kept RH at 100% and the mushrooms were tiny (stalled), and bot the mushrooms and the entire casing were covered with extremely white, fluffy mycelium, associated with high RH


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: OuchITripped]
    #3006238 - 08/15/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

hey all,

thanks for the replies, i have a second flush about to be harvested. the fruits are less abundent but quite abit larger.

after i harvest (prolly tomorrow) i will thourouly clean the cased *popcorn* (cased with straight coir). what is the best method of getting all the little premature mushrooms/aborts, off casing. i know a pull/twist is best to remove mushrooms, but sometimes they squish and it becomes hard to remove. should i use a clean spoon or something??

next, i will apply a thouroughly soaked layer of casing material. then back in the terrarium.

sound good?

Ouchitripped, i thinkmy meter is off, there is plenty of condensation on the walls, and the sasing itself holds water, that along with light mistings, i am pretty sure humidity is covered.


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: shamanality]
    #3006277 - 08/15/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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shamanality said:
hey all,

after i harvest (prolly tomorrow) i will thourouly clean the cased *popcorn* (cased with straight coir). what is the best method of getting all the little premature mushrooms/aborts, off casing. i know a pull/twist is best to remove mushrooms, but sometimes they squish and it becomes hard to remove. should i use a clean spoon or something??





Try an exacto (model knife) instead of a spoon.


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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: Phynatikus]
    #3008883 - 08/16/04 02:20 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

thanks alot all.

today i harvested another 100gwet, from the 2 casings, planning on i fresh 5 g does this evening. should be interesting.

thanks for the tip phynatikus, the exactp knife worked much better than the spoon, i tried both for a point of comparison. also something i found interesteing, we share a state and city!!

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Re: 2 1qt amazon casings.... [Re: shamanality]
    #4588268 - 08/27/05 08:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Hell yes! :smile: Have fun


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