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 question_for_joo
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 Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy 
#2997278 - 08/12/04 07:19 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey before this one gets shunted off to die in Science & Technology (might as well just delete it and quit playing games) I just wanted to say you're all gonna be believers in 10 years time. Noone's gonna be unaffected. Your crops are gonna burn. Your pool's are gonna freeze. Wake up people. Bad shit really is happening and it's getting worse every year. Mother nature is pissed off.
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 Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2997296 - 08/12/04 07:24 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think it's too late to stop the tide. Society will not change in time, at any rate.
Just wait till things do start to get bad on the whole...we'll see what humans do when backed into a corner (nuke eachother, probably).
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2997313 - 08/12/04 07:28 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Global warming will be good for Canada.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2997319 - 08/12/04 07:29 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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question_for_joo said:
Hey before this one gets shunted off to die in Science & Technology (might as well just delete it and quit playing games) I just wanted to say you're all gonna be believers in 10 years time. Noone's gonna be unaffected. Your crops are gonna burn. Your pool's are gonna freeze. Wake up people. Bad shit really is happening and it's getting worse every year. Mother nature is pissed off.
You know there is something wrong when after a three day long river trip, you are rithing in pain from suburns and blisters. It happenned to me like that.
Just a few days out in the sun and FRIED!
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: silversoul7]
#2997341 - 08/12/04 07:32 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Actually I have my eyes on the antarctic! There's some prime real-estate under all that ice 
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: silversoul7]
#2997349 - 08/12/04 07:34 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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silversoul7 said:
Global warming will be good for Canada.
How about California?
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: Redstorm]
#2997356 - 08/12/04 07:35 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
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Global warming will be good for Canada.
How about California?
Yesterday it was 104 degrees outside, and this is in Northern California. So, to answer your question, I don't think it will be good.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: silversoul7]
#2997372 - 08/12/04 07:39 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Canada will be the next superpower. They will invade America when we are weak from starvation and famine! Beware!
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2997442 - 08/12/04 07:57 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Please tie this in to one of the following if you wish it to stay here:
Politics -- i.e. what do you believe government should do to stop the sun from putting out more radiation that reaches the earth (check several recent articles in the mainstream press for the reference)
Activism -- i.e. what form of protests or letter-writing campaigns etc. you feel would be effective in preventing the temperature of the Earth from dropping several hundredths of a degree centigrade per year (according to the most recent satellite-gathered data)
Law -- what current laws should be enforced or new laws introduced to prevent people from burning stuff.
pinky
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: silversoul7]
#2997463 - 08/12/04 08:03 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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silversoul7 said:
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Redstorm said:
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silversoul7 said:
Global warming will be good for Canada.
How about California?
Yesterday it was 104 degrees outside, and this is in Northern California. So, to answer your question, I don't think it will be good.
I don't think so either. I think it's gonna be more desert than it already is, very, very soon.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2997481 - 08/12/04 08:08 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The climate may be slowly changing in places. It's not getting warmer everywhere though. Here in the northeast US temperatures have been lower in the last few years than average.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: Phred]
#2997521 - 08/12/04 08:18 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Politics -- i.e. what do you believe government should do to stop the sun from putting out more radiation that reaches the earth (check several recent articles in the mainstream press for the reference)
Obviously noone can stop more radiation from reaching the Earth but what we can do is reduce the amount that is prevented from bouncing back out. We can allow more trees to grow. We can reduce the amount of poisonous chemicals we pump into the atmosphere. We can stop reducing the ozone layer. This is not just the government's responsibility (though I believe any responsible govt. should take a lead). This is everyone's responsibility, especially those of us in the industrial world.
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Activism - i.e. what form of protests or letter-writing campaigns etc. you feel would be effective in preventing the temperature of the Earth from dropping several hundredths of a degree centigrade per year (according to the most recent satellite-gathered data)
That's a compound question. It's going up faster than that and the increase is exponential. A little increase will have profound effects. As for protests that's the point. Protests happen to make undecided and opposite minded people think about issues. This post is a little protest. Hopefully it's reminded a handful of shroomery people of the threat that's gathering. The original article on the BBC website reminded me. American news media doesn't report on this stuff very often because American's don't like to face gloomy reality and so far America hasn't been as severely impacted as other parts of the world. My pop's in London right now. Right now they're sweltering, suffering.
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Law -- what current laws should be enforced or new laws introduced to prevent people from burning stuff.
I didn't have anything specifically in mind but I mean hey here's a proposition: ban Hummers. Here's another one: big tax cuts for carpoolers. Here's another one: big tax cuts for people who install solar panels. Those would be some good new laws.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2998246 - 08/12/04 11:11 PM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Two things to make sure you guys know (not assuming you don't already know this)
1) Climate and weather are largely very separate (i.e. just because you set some records this past week does not = climate change)
2) The Ozone layer has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with global change/climate change
oh, and to satisfy pinky, i think that this is one of the prime examples that there needs to be some sort of sacrfice of national sovereignty to the global community. yes, perhaps the UN needs drastic reform, but there needs to be something
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: Tao]
#2999147 - 08/13/04 03:38 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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The ozone layer does have something to do with global warming - it shields the ice-caps from ultra-violet rays, doesn't it?
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: MAGnum]
#2999158 - 08/13/04 03:44 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Canada will be the next superpower. They will invade America when we are weak from starvation and famine! Beware!
we'd take over canada before that would happen 
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2999171 - 08/13/04 03:51 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nah... its the result of planetary xenoforming being carried out by the global shadow government and the grays.
sheesh.. this foil hat itches.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: question_for_joo]
#2999246 - 08/13/04 05:05 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Our summer has sucked so far (well below average temp). I say bring on the Global warming, sooner the better. ***sprays aerosol can in the air****
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: Innvertigo]
#2999301 - 08/13/04 05:54 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Global warming does not equal local warming. It means local changes, infact as the overall energy level in the system increases I would expect weather to become more erratic and violent.
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: psilomonkey]
#2999312 - 08/13/04 06:07 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Global warming does not equal local warming. It means local changes,
huh? Global warming is just what it means, warming. Are you confusing el nino with global warming?
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infact as the overall energy level in the system increases I would expect weather to become more erratic and violent.
energy level in what "system"? What would you base this prediction on? Weather has always been erratic and violent. How does global warming fit in here?
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Re: Global warming nothing but pretend communist conspiracy [Re: Innvertigo]
#2999349 - 08/13/04 06:35 AM (19 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most global warming models predict that extreme weather will become more common.
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