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Invisiblesilversoul7
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How do we save America?
    #2996563 - 08/12/04 06:48 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've been thinking about this election, and what a shitty choice we have in candidates. That's how it always seems to be. As Evolving has pointed out numerous times, whenever one party gets into power, they do not reverse the damage done to our freedoms by the other party, but simply strip away more freedoms. How can we end this cycle? How can we restore freedom to our country? It's all well and good to talk about how the country should be run, but how can we actually bring about those changes?


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2996575 - 08/12/04 06:51 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)



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Invisiblesilversoul7
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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Ed1]
    #2996582 - 08/12/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbdown:


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2996584 - 08/12/04 06:52 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I have yet to see what exactly America needs to be saved from.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2996600 - 08/12/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
I have yet to see what exactly America needs to be saved from.



The left.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2996605 - 08/12/04 06:56 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I have yet to see what exactly America needs to be saved from.



That indicates to me that you're part of the problem.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2996606 - 08/12/04 06:57 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Pff...we have fuck all power, really. We can use our vote, which, if you don't like the main choices, means very little. Probably the biggest influence we wield is our spending power. More so for us pinkos, as we can buy from companies that respect the environment.

To be honest, I don't think my cause (or yours, for that matter) stands much chance of getting near any real power in the forseeable future. The best way of getting power is through money, I guess.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Ed1]
    #2996691 - 08/12/04 07:16 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/ZevChafets40809.htm




If America's Muslims don't want to be identified with America's enemies, they are going to need new leaders and loud voices. Slapping the word "peace" over the door of the mosque just isn't going to do it anymore.

Source: www.jewishworldreview.com |
:thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

Jewish World Review, what an unbiased source  :rolleyes:

You might as well ask the KKK to do an unbiased review of the Black Panthers


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2996986 - 08/12/04 08:12 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

The Republican vs. Democrat thing has become so trivial. The difference between the two parties are so small, it is sort of a catch-22 no matter who you vote for.

The American people have themselves stuck in a rut, which they won't get out of without revolution or a horrendous spread of a deadly disease which would wipe out most of the population.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Divided_Sky]
    #2996996 - 08/12/04 08:14 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Divided_Sky said:
I have yet to see what exactly America needs to be saved from.




i feel for the moment like arguing overpopulation as the main problem.

ppl are forced to live together inspite of social differences.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2997002 - 08/12/04 08:15 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

America can not be saved.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: vampirism]
    #2997018 - 08/12/04 08:18 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Morrowind said:
America can not be saved.




are u implying that "america" cant, but possibly something new could replace it?

or just that we are doomed.?


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: BleaK]
    #2997064 - 08/12/04 08:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I believe the human race is doomed, other than "savages" living free from civilization. It's just a matter of when.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Redstorm]
    #2997085 - 08/12/04 08:30 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Yup :smile:

I'm gonna become a "savage".  You guys can blow yourselves up :smile:


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Redstorm]
    #2997098 - 08/12/04 08:32 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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I believe the human race is doomed, other than "savages" living free from civilization. It's just a matter of when.




since u believe thats undeniable, are you then helping usher in that state?


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: deafpanda]
    #2997106 - 08/12/04 08:34 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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deafpanda said:
Yup :smile:

I'm gonna become a "savage".  You guys can blow yourselves up :smile:




yay, then you/we can eat irradiated game.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Redstorm]
    #2997111 - 08/12/04 08:35 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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The American people have themselves stuck in a rut, which they won't get out of without revolution or a horrendous spread of a deadly disease which would wipe out most of the population.




History has shown that every great nation and empire will one day crumble to the ground...

Original Roman Empire: 1101 years
The Holy Roman Empire: 844 years
Nazi Germany: 13 years
Soviet Union: 74 years
British Empire: 442 years (give or take a couple decades)
United States: 228 years+

One day people will look back on the US superpower as we look back on the British Empire, or the Soviet Union, or the Roman Empire. There is no doubt America will come to an end, and then some new empire will take over. The question is just posed, when?


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Ravus]
    #2997121 - 08/12/04 08:38 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Amen, brother. That's exactly how I see it. No matter how much you push against it, things always come to an end.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: BleaK]
    #2997122 - 08/12/04 08:39 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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BleaK said:
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Redstorm said:
I believe the human race is doomed, other than "savages" living free from civilization. It's just a matter of when.




since u believe thats undeniable, are you then helping usher in that state?




I don't think I need to help. My fellow man is doing the job to kill himself out good enough for all of us.


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Re: How do we save America? [Re: Ravus]
    #2997126 - 08/12/04 08:42 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Ravus said:
There is no doubt America will come to an end, and then some new empire will take over. The question is just posed, when?




When we are all speaking spanish and nobody living in America has any connection to the history that founded it. It will be like Rome, fading out into obscurity as result of lack of cultural identity and apathy, rather than a quick demise.


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