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OfflineCrapula
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pull your pants down
    #2994776 - 08/12/04 09:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here is a perfect example of how our government and corporations are in bed together. Our pharm companies are scared to death that they won't be able to fuck us anymore if we start getting more reasonably priced prescription drugs from other countries. Now they have the government telling us that if we get our drugs from other countries.....terrorists are going to tamper with them. Unbelievable!!!! I am so fed up with these unvalidated scare tactics...I could puke. Whenever our government wants us to conform.....they try to scare us with terrrorism. It's getting very old.






FDA Warns of Terrorist Drug Tampering
08:09 AM EST August 12, 2004


The Associated Press


WASHINGTON
"Cues from chatter" gathered around the world are raising concerns that terrorists might try to attack the domestic food and drug supply, particularly illegally imported prescription drugs, acting Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Lester M. Crawford says.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Crawford said Wednesday that he had been briefed about al-Qaida plans uncovered during recent arrests and raids, but declined further comment about any possible threats.

"While we must assume that such a threat exists generally, we have no specific information now about any al-Qaida threats to our food or drug supply," said Brian Roehrkasse, spokesman for the Homeland Security Department.

Crawford said the possibility of such an attack was the most serious of his concerns about the increase in states and municipalities trying to import drugs from Canada to save money.

"We get our cues from chatter that occurs around the world, which is related to us by the intelligence community, and also from past incidents and things that happened domestically," he said.

Crawford noted the 1982 Tylenol case, in which packages of the extra-strength variety of the leading painkiller were removed from store shelves on Chicago's west side, filled with cyanide and returned to stores for purchase. Seven unsuspecting consumers were killed, and the incident prompted widespread adoption of tamperproof packaging.

"I would think that's something they would be looking at," Crawford said of terrorists. "Nothing like that has happened," he added. "But it is a source of continuing concern."

FDA is under mounting pressure - and faces a lawsuit filed by the state of Vermont - to soften its opposition to importing drugs from Canada, which is seen by many consumers and state and local government officials as a way to shave thousands to millions of dollars from drug bills.

The FDA has held fast, saying it is concerned about the safety and effectiveness of the illegally imported drugs. So far, however, the agency has done little more than issue warning letters. And Crawford said the agency has not decided whether to vigorously defend itself against the Vermont lawsuit.

The agency's jitters about Canadian prescription imports are many. According to Crawford, some drugs are shipped without proper refrigeration, some have the wrong potency and some are counterfeit, lacking active ingredients.

Crawford's top concern is that terrorists could strike at drugs.

He said he was briefed about the al-Qaida threats uncovered by recent arrests and raids. Asked whether the briefing covered potential terror strikes against products the agency regulates - including food and drugs - Crawford declined further comment.

Two recent product tampering episodes the agency faced this summer ended without injury or death.

Baby food, which Crawford said was probably singled out for its "shock" effect, was laced with ground castor beans in Irvine, Calif. The contamination source is unclear; no arrest has been made. Ricin, a deadly toxin, is made from castor beans.

And a shipment of lemons from Argentina allegedly impregnated with an unidentified "harmful biological substance" was barred from entry at the Port of Newark, N.J., on Aug. 6. The U.S. Coast Guard, Homeland Security Department and the FDA worked on the investigation, freezing the lemons to preserve the contaminant.

"There was nothing we could find in there," Crawford said.

On other issues, Crawford said:

-A second review links antidepressants with higher suicide rates among children. While outside observers who have read both reports say they contain enough detail for the FDA to recommend Prozac as the first drug of choice for depressed youths, Crawford said the agency will wait until its advisory committee meets in mid-September to give the FDA an expert basis for action.

-The agency approved two new injectable drugs, pentetate calcium trisodium and pentetate zinc trisodium, that speed the body's ability to rid itself of radioactive contamination. The drugs are the first products approved to treat contamination with plutonium, americium or curium, which could be released by a "dirty" bomb.

-Before year's end, the agency will provide regulations that define low-, reduced- or carbohydrate-free items. The FDA is leaning toward educating the public by highlighting healthier foods with a "starburst" tag or color-coded label.

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InvisibleInnvertigo
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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Crapula]
    #2994814 - 08/12/04 10:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm with you on this one. They also tell you that the drugs you get from other countries are bad for you due to lack of quality. WTF?


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2994839 - 08/12/04 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

While I agree that the FDA is evil with the terrorist crap, I can safely say that other countries importing medicine here *DOES* have the potential for issues.

Other countries are not held to our manufacturing standards. not that I think my asprin would be any dirtier.. but you never know.. one bad batch and what not.


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OfflineMAGnum
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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Crapula]
    #2994864 - 08/12/04 10:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

"Crawford noted the 1982 Tylenol case, in which packages of the extra-strength variety of the leading painkiller were removed from store shelves on Chicago's west side, filled with cyanide and returned to stores for purchase. Seven unsuspecting consumers were killed, and the incident prompted widespread adoption of tamperproof packaging."

How the hell does someone poisoning tylenol at a domestic location have anything to do with imports?


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: MAGnum]
    #2994876 - 08/12/04 10:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How the hell does someone poisoning tylenol at a domestic location have anything to do with imports?

Scare-mongering :wink:


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Invisiblepsilomonkey
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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Crapula]
    #2994955 - 08/12/04 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This 'chatter', I think the Internet, I think monkeys/typewriters, I think you can find 'chatter' on anything you look for.

I bet you could find 'chatter' on terrorist plots to plant bombs or poisons in all sorts imported goods, shit, this post could be considered 'chatter'.


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Barbi]
    #2994961 - 08/12/04 11:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I'm all for the FDA testing these drugs that come in but my gripe is that the FDA (IMHO) has a lot to do with why drugs are at the cost they are (R&D). I'm not a person who thinks the government should regulate things but the cost of life saving drugs are outstanding, which makes my position very conflicted on this issue. It forces people to seek cheaper ways of making their life bareable (Which i'm all for ie: MJ legalization)). I had this debate with may father-in-law, we were trying to make the comparison of using foreign workers to people seeking foreign drugs. They seemed to be quite similar (open market)


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2996198 - 08/12/04 05:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

la de da, the govt tampers with our water, la de da.


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: BleaK]
    #2996528 - 08/12/04 06:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

BleaK said:
la de da, the govt tampers with our water, la de da.




General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.

General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.

:laugh:


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: BleaK]
    #2999249 - 08/13/04 07:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

point?


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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Crapula]
    #2999956 - 08/13/04 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You're taking a big risk when you get drugs from other countries. Many of them are counterfeit.




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Re: pull your pants down [Re: Crapula]
    #2999962 - 08/13/04 11:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why don't you do some research before you spout all this ignorant psychobabble? A lot of drugs are protected by patents and no, no one will develop new drugs without money.


Also see this about counterfeit drugs:

http://www.seniorjournal.com/NEWS/MedicareDrugCards/4-07-31FDA.htm

http://www.fda.gov/oc/initiatives/counterfeit/

http://www.fda.gov/oc/initiatives/counterfeit/report02_04.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/health/main575354.shtml


Edited by Ed1 (08/13/04 11:52 AM)


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